Where do we go from here

[shoxlax]

I would be very surprised if there are not a lot of calls going back and forth between Area Codes 785 and 575.
Very surprised.
Kind of like those who follow flight tracker during the off season.
Is there such a thing as phone calls tracker?

That is all.

Let me make a call to my friends at the NSA, Ref.

[Woodrow]

I want to make two observations about this year and then move on to the topic of where I would go from here if I were coach Brown.

First, the biggest difference between this year's team and last year was Alterique Gilbert. Gilbert was a really good point guard and we missed him this year. missed him more than I realized. In a close game, good guards can win a game and bad guards can help you lose. As others have said, Trying to develop Tyson as a point guard didn't work and Porter wasn't good enough either. WSU has more turnovers than assists this year, I think I read that.

This team is like a band. As individuals, they might play well, but together they sound awful. This band needs to break up. This team needs different players.

I would keep Ricky Council 4, Kenny Pohto, and the two redshirts. Everyone else can leave and I wish them good luck in all their future endeavors.

As to coach Brown. IMO, the thoughts expressed about coach Brown and his being fired are not fair and I am being kind.

As to moving forward, the first thing I would do today is call Carl Hall and see if he would join the coaching staff this year. I believe the big guys need a coach and I think he would do well.

WSU and coach Brown needs to establish the team's identity, Does he want to play slow or fast? Does he want to emphasize offense or defense?

Also, I would follow the Gonzaga model to get back to the top of basketball where fans want to be. Starting with scheduling, I would play any team anywhere that was good. I would really focus, as Gonzaga did early on with making sure our guard play was great.

Those are my thoughts for now and come back next year and evaluate where we were then.

Those are my thoughts.

I went back and compared the stats for AG last year and CP this year. CP had 91 assists and 48 turnovers, AG had 91 assists and 49 turnovers. CP shot better overall .426 to .348. CP shot better from 3 .341 to .289. CP averaged 4.9 rebounds and AG 3.1. CP had 39 steals and AG had 35. CP had 28 blocks and AG 2. CP ft % .735, AG .71. CP 7.3 pt/game and AG 10.3. AG was a volume shooter but his percentage was not good. Had CP taken the same number of shots he would have averaged more than AG. I hope CP is here next year as he seemed to be the main reason we did as well as we did this year. It would be frightening to think about the alternative.

[1972Shocker]

Someone send Muma to Charles house to beg for forgiveness

Forgiveness for what?

[ShockRef]

Let me make a call to my friends at the NSA, Ref.

Lax,
Was unaware you were that connected.
Impressive.
I'll hang up and await the response from your good friends at the NSA.

That is all.

[BAShocker]

Every time I see the title of this thread, I think of Chicago’s (the band) song on their second album. Underrated song, imo.

[shock-it-to-me]

Yesufu shoukd transfer to WSU. Dude is barely sniffing the court at KU now that Martin is coming on.

[TrackSuitAndTie]

Adding insult to injury…

The tournament should be held somewhere people want to visit, regardless of basketball. Memphis or New Orleans would be much better choices than Fort Worth in my opinion.

[NCAABound]

The tournament should be held somewhere people want to visit, regardless of basketball. Memphis or New Orleans would be much better choices than Fort Worth in my opinion.

I don't think these shitty fanbases would travel anywhere to watch their teams

[shocktown]

The tournament should be held somewhere people want to visit, regardless of basketball. Memphis or New Orleans would be much better choices than Fort Worth in my opinion.

Fedex Forum 2019 AAC Tourney.

[SubGod22]

Ft. Worth isn't the problem. Wichita sucking ass is the problem. And escalating gas prices don't help. A good Shocker team is going to pull at least 5k to the tournament there. I hated STL and was looking forward to DFW.

[shockerfan]

Ft. Worth isn't the problem. Wichita sucking ass is the problem. And escalating gas prices don't help. A good Shocker team is going to pull at least 5k to the tournament there. I hated STL and was looking forward to DFW.

Exactly, I MUCH prefer Fort Worth over St Louis.....or even a place like Memphis. Beale street isn't all that IMHO. Give me the Stock Yards or Sundance Square any day. But everyone will have their own opinions on that, and it is fine. Not everyone will be happy with the destination.

The main thing is this conference just isn't supported well enough in basketball to ever have a full arena no matter WHERE it is. Outside a couple of Universities there just isn't enough of a following.

If WSU gets back, even a little bit, then the conference will rely on us just like the MVC did after Creighton left. Hell, had WSU won 1-2 games this week the fans would have travelled down. I have almost no doubt about that. It is what sets our fanbase apart from most of our conference, let alone most of the country.

[NCAABound]

Exactly, I MUCH prefer Fort Worth over St Louis.....or even a place like Memphis. Beale street isn't all that IMHO. Give me the Stock Yards or Sundance Square any day. But everyone will have their own opinions on that, and it is fine. Not everyone will be happy with the destination.

The main thing is this conference just isn't supported well enough in basketball to ever have a full arena no matter WHERE it is. Outside a couple of Universities there just isn't enough of a following.

If WSU gets back, even a little bit, then the conference will rely on us just like the MVC did after Creighton left. Hell, had WSU won 1-2 games this week the fans would have travelled down. I have almost no doubt about that. It is what sets our fanbase apart from most of our conference, let alone most of the country.

So why did we move to this godforsaken conference then?

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

I went back and compared the stats for AG last year and CP this year. CP had 91 assists and 48 turnovers, AG had 91 assists and 49 turnovers. CP shot better overall .426 to .348. CP shot better from 3 .341 to .289. CP averaged 4.9 rebounds and AG 3.1. CP had 39 steals and AG had 35. CP had 28 blocks and AG 2. CP ft % .735, AG .71. CP 7.3 pt/game and AG 10.3. AG was a volume shooter but his percentage was not good. Had CP taken the same number of shots he would have averaged more than AG. I hope CP is here next year as he seemed to be the main reason we did as well as we did this year. It would be frightening to think about the alternative.

Ya the AG over CP narrative should end right here. Porter drove this team this year. Just look at the Tulsa game. AG was good but CP is a much better overall point guard with far more upside as well.

[TrackSuitAndTie]

I don't think these shitty fanbases would travel anywhere to watch their teams

That's fair. I still think it doesn't help the AACT that it's not easy to convince people who might not be huge basketball fans to make a trip to Fort Worth, Texas. Sure, there are things to do there, but it's not a primary travel destination. Aresco probably isn't happy about attendance, and probably isn't willing to blame the empty seats on "shitty fanbases". That being said, I can't see attendance getting much better in the new-look AAC without some type of change.

I'm really brainstorming because it sucks to see such an empty arena for our league.

[pinstripers]

it's selection Sunday and I don't give a ****