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  • who is the most prominant shocker...

    ...who in his career emerged from fairly deep on the bench to be a pretty good player...any thoughts?

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    Re: who is the most prominant shocker...

    Originally posted by molly jabali
    ...who in his career emerged from fairly deep on the bench to be a pretty good player...any thoughts?
    Troy Mack, Henry Carr, Steve Grayer are some who come to mind. Troy did little for a couple years. Henry hardly saw the court as a freshman, not did Steve. Both did little under Gene but flourished in the Fogler system.

    Don't forget James Gibbs who spent a lot of time on the bench then was a fine point guard his senior season.

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      Jason Perez did not start initially.

      Proved to be one of the best we've seen in a long time.

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        Jason got plenty of PT from day one. In fact his freshman season he pretty much single-handedly beat the mildcats up in the Bramlage Masoleum.

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          This probably does not quite fit but X received limited playing time as a freshman, of course there was a big reason for that.

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          • #6
            Great question Larry.

            Steve Grayer was highly recruited and was a fresmen during Smithson's last year, I believe. I don't think I would put him in this category.

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              Jason got plenty of PT from day one. In fact his freshman season he pretty much single-handedly beat the mildcats up in the Bramlage Masoleum.
              I loved that game. Perez was shooting 3's 6-7 feet beyond the arc. He also threw an inbounds pass off a ksu players back to score an easy 2.
              Marge: The plant called and said that if you don't come in tomorrow, don't bother coming in Monday.
              Homer: WOOHOO! Four day weekend.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Maggie
                This probably does not quite fit but X received limited playing time as a freshman, of course there was a big reason for that.
                Make that two big reasons.

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                • #9
                  What about Terry Benton? He had 2 huge years...but I don't think he played much early in his career. Can anybody verify that?

                  Also - can you all believe it's been since 1985 (Aubrey Sherrod) that we've had a player who is in the Shocker HOF? Does anybody think any player since then deserves it? Jason Perez?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by NCAABound
                    What about Terry Benton? He had 2 huge years...but I don't think he played much early in his career. Can anybody verify that?

                    Also - can you all believe it's been since 1985 (Aubrey Sherrod) that we've had a player who is in the Shocker HOF? Does anybody think any player since then deserves it? Jason Perez?
                    Good point.

                    As a soph, 6.8 rebounds and 6.6 points.
                    As a Jun, 16.8 rebounds and 16.3 points.
                    As a Sr, 14.0 rebounds and 16.2 points.

                    He did come a long way after his soph year.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ABC
                      Great question Larry.

                      Steve Grayer was highly recruited and was a fresmen during Smithson's last year, I believe. I don't think I would put him in this category.
                      Fresh: 3.7 reb; 5.2 points
                      Soph; 4.5 reb; 8.9 points
                      Jr; 5.1 reb; 12.2 points
                      Sr; 8.3 reb; 14.0 points

                      Pretty highly recruited, but he did make significant steps from start to finish. I recall him coming in touted as a shooting guard, but turned out to be a very strong inside player.

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                      • #12
                        'larry'?..... ;-)

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                        • #13
                          Henry Carr making second team All MVC his senior year was astounding.

                          Terry Benton was an outstanding high school player at East. I thought he was a three year starter after he played on the freshman team at WSU.

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                          • #14
                            Jason Perez should make the shocker HOF....easily! Depending on this year i think PJ could also make a very strong case.
                            "The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning."
                            -- Pele

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                              Originally posted by NCAABound
                              What about Terry Benton? He had 2 huge years...but I don't think he played much early in his career. Can anybody verify that?

                              Also - can you all believe it's been since 1985 (Aubrey Sherrod) that we've had a player who is in the Shocker HOF? Does anybody think any player since then deserves it? Jason Perez?
                              Paul Miller. Honorable Mention All American.

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