Dexter is the king of driving in the lane with no real plan. He runs into 3 defenders, pulls up and then starts looking around for somewhere to pass, which is too late.
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Wichita State at Houston Game Thread 1-8-22
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IB might want to consider more zone with certain players and combo of players in
the line up to help address individual defensive weaknesses. For example
bringing in RC4 and KP together might be a good time for a zone. I want KP
around the rim and not chasing an opponents big outside the paint and RC might do
better in a zone also. Could be one or two others, as well.
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Originally posted by shock-it-to-me View PostAnd why do our guards refuse the screen and dribble away from the screener 70% of the time. Makes no sense
Overuse is obviously not the best idea, but it is a tactic designed to punish the defense for overplaying a ball screen."In God we trust, all others must bring data." - W. Edwards Deming
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Originally posted by pinstripers View Post
It must be by design. We've done it for years
Anyways...only way to go is up.
Go Shocks!FINAL FOURS:
1965, 2013
NCAA Tournament:
1964, 1965, 1976, 1981, 1985, 1987, 1988, 2006, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2021
NIT Champs - 1 (2011)
AP Poll History of Wichita St:
Number of Times Ranked: 157
Number of Times Ranked #1: 1
Number of Times Top 5: 32 (Most Recent - 2017)
Number of Times Top 10: 73 (Most Recent - 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017)
Highest Recent AP Ranking:
#3 - Dec. 2017
#2 ~ March 2014
Highest Recent Coaches Poll Ranking:
#2 ~ March 2014
Finished 2013 Season #4
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Originally posted by AZ Shocker View Post
Gotta be. Was hoping IB would've added some more wrinkles or enhancements to GM's old school offense but dern. Now without the discipline it looks like a damn Chinese fire drill. Well better put...more of a game of musical chairs. The Chinese fire drill is better described for the fast breaks. But that's old news...
Anyways...only way to go is up.
Go Shocks!
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What I don’t get among many issues with the offense is that it appears that 40-50% of the initial passes are from Craig to Dexter who catches it on the left side standing straight up and facing at 45 degrees the opponent’s basket allowing the defender to be right in his grill with his medium to low effectiveness ball handling. Almost never does he successfully break away on the dribble or have anyone open to pass to except Mo who has to come too far out to then be able to get back in to the basket. So, on this many possessions or more the ball is stuck like the old tar baby story and 5-9 good seconds go off the clock with no progression in the offense and the defense gaining confidence and aggression. Watching Houston get people wide open on so many possessions proves it is the failure of the scheme. Again, if your opponent forces you to commence the offense at 45 feet you have to make them pay with motion, screening and back doors. Exhausting to watch the malaise.
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Originally posted by AZ Shocker View Post
Gotta be. Was hoping IB would've added some more wrinkles or enhancements to GM's old school offense but dern. Now without the discipline it looks like a damn Chinese fire drill. Well better put...more of a game of musical chairs. The Chinese fire drill is better described for the fast breaks. But that's old news...
Anyways...only way to go is up.
Go Shocks!
Even with an actual PG on the roster, Marshall's last team did not play disciplined basketball. Dribble, dribble, dribble, jack a 3 was the team's standard offense. Go review some of the game threads from that year and you will see the same complaints you're seeing in threads this year.
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Originally posted by WuDrWu View PostMaybe? AG was an exceptional PG, and frankly, even that is an understatement.
Best player on the team is the PG with a 2.0 A/TO ration. That's a great formula for a low-seed NIT invite or possibly one of the C**-something tourneys.
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Originally posted by WuTheOne View PostMarshall's disciplined teams? Are you saying that the team with Burton, Sherfield, Stevenson, and the rest was "disciplined"? Maybe they were disciplined in the locker room or in practice, but they did not play disciplined basketball.
Originally posted by WuTheOne View PostBack in the days when Hall, Baker, VanVleet, Cotton, and Wessel were on the court, those were disciplined teams.
Originally posted by WuTheOne View PostDisciplined play pretty much went steadily downhill after those guys were gone.
Even with an actual PG on the roster, Marshall's last team did not play disciplined basketball. Dribble, dribble, dribble, jack a 3 was the team's standard offense.
Originally posted by WuTheOne View PostGo review some of the game threads from that year and you will see the same complaints you're seeing in threads this year.
Remember how many point guards transferred out under Marshall over the years??? It's not a "sexy" offense to play in. It's very "disciplined". You have to have the right guy with the right "other" guys to make the offense work. Old school and very disciplined. It's fruition came with guys like Hannah, Murray, Armstead and of course Fred.
GM was a great coach and got the absolute best out of his players until the bitter end. Loved the move to the American at the time...but the pressure was thick.FINAL FOURS:
1965, 2013
NCAA Tournament:
1964, 1965, 1976, 1981, 1985, 1987, 1988, 2006, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2021
NIT Champs - 1 (2011)
AP Poll History of Wichita St:
Number of Times Ranked: 157
Number of Times Ranked #1: 1
Number of Times Top 5: 32 (Most Recent - 2017)
Number of Times Top 10: 73 (Most Recent - 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017)
Highest Recent AP Ranking:
#3 - Dec. 2017
#2 ~ March 2014
Highest Recent Coaches Poll Ranking:
#2 ~ March 2014
Finished 2013 Season #4
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“Back in the days when we had Hall, Baker, VV, Cotton and Wessel on the court” - and we complain about lack of size now. 6’6” post and 6’4” power forward. Those guys had grit but I remember lots of complaining about having to use Evan at the 4.
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Originally posted by WuTheOne View PostI've moved to thinking that hiring IB was a mistake, but he's our coach for the next 3 years or so regardless of any opinions on whether he should have been hired.
I'm willing to give IB those years to see if he can demonstrate that he deserved and deserves the job.
Plenty of game left for HCIB to get the ship righted and prove he was the right choice, but it is clear with attendance the fans have lost hope.
There's really no other option.
Nobody expects this to really happen though. To much pride with AD and too much wokeness at the university.
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