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  • What he said was that the shot clock has nothing to do with the 10 second call. I did not know that.

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    • Originally posted by dTm View Post
      So you give an excuse why this easy obvious call is missed and so its end of story
      what have you done mr expert cuz you have ref in your name?
      go ahead and attack me all you want and keep making worthless posts instead of staying on topic
      Unlike the lemmings on this site just because you or wudrwu says it doesnt make it gospel.
      God forbid someonw has a different opinion from you obvious experts.
      So your biased opinion based off of watching games is supposed to trump that of those who have officiated thousands of games? Makes a hell of a lot of sense to me.....
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      • Counting to 10 is counting to 10

        How the hell do you know anything about me?

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        • All I know about you is from your posts. And you continue to prove that you have little understanding here. Continuing this dialogue with you will be as productive as me banging my head against the wall for the next hour.

          Good day sir...or ma'am...
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            • The rally squirrel I got earlier in the day at Busch Stadium obviously was of no help on Saturday afternoon. Maybe I should have thrown him on the court.
              Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss

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              • Acknowledgement

                Shockers will come out of this with flying colors! But, saying that referees don't decide games is wrong. The best referee jobs are done when they really noticed during the games (if by so called experts). The more I read on this post, the more I believe (watched the game) that is was very poorly officiated. Even though WSU shot poorly or excuted poorly is not the problem. Good teams find a way to win, like good defense, etc. Murray's defense on Brown when the ball went out of bounds at 18 seconds probably would have won the game for WSU. On the 10 second call, I know the referee moves his arms back and forth for the count. If you watched other games they are usually right on with the time clock, but not in this case. I am not an expert or claim to be one. These are the facts that have been presented and no I have never refereed a game.

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                • Originally posted by Dr. D View Post
                  Shockers will come out of this with flying colors! But, saying that referees don't decide games is wrong. The best referee jobs are done when they really noticed during the games (if by so called experts). The more I read on this post, the more I believe (watched the game) that is was very poorly officiated. Even though WSU shot poorly or excuted poorly is not the problem. Good teams find a way to win, like good defense, etc. Murray's defense on Brown when the ball went out of bounds at 18 seconds probably would have won the game for WSU. On the 10 second call, I know the referee moves his arms back and forth for the count. If you watched other games they are usually right on with the time clock, but not in this case. I am not an expert or claim to be one. These are the facts that have been presented and no I have never refereed a game.
                  This x1000000000 we played like **** and still should have one if the correct call was made on the out of bounds play! How you can defend this is mind boggling
                  I smell Bluejay puntang and the only good Bluejay puntang is dead Bluejay puntang

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                  • Originally posted by pinstripers View Post
                    What he said was that the shot clock has nothing to do with the 10 second call. I did not know that.
                    That's why they need to change the rule and have it based off the shot clock. How hard could that be. Just have a buzzer or some unique sound go off at the 25-second mark of the shot clock.

                    The way it is now, some referees count faster or slower than others.

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                    • Originally posted by ShockRef View Post
                      dTm,
                      You sound like a typical frustrated guy. It's ok, we all get old and have bowel movement issues and the internal pressure it creates can cause sudden and irrational outbursts. It's understood.

                      Besides, you are trying to sound like an expert so why not tell all of us about the biggest college game you've officiated?
                      Ut ohhh, hasn't happened?

                      Maybe your biggest High School Game?
                      No go there either?

                      Ok, how about your biggest Biddie ball game?
                      Ooops. Nothing to see here, huh?

                      Oh well.

                      Kelly was looking for a possible explanation. It was provided.

                      End of story.
                      Now you've really teeed me off...before you start spouting off big-time officiating opportunities you better include the South Hiram Street 4-foot and under Gummy Bear Nerf Championships. I, very proudly, happen to be the Director of Officials and have a signed (although stained with chocolate milk) certificate proclaiming my status with this fine organization. Any disputes about how I officiate these championship games brings an automatic timeout next to the barrel of orange cones. Don't mess with my trah - lah - lah and don't leave out the SHSGBNC when substantiating the standards of officials.
                      Sorry, had to get that off my chest. :-)

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                      • Originally posted by SubGod22 View Post
                        All I know about you is from your posts. And you continue to prove that you have little understanding here. Continuing this dialogue with you will be as productive as me banging my head against the wall for the next hour.

                        Good day sir...or ma'am...
                        You should pay closer attention, cuz you hit like on about 4 of my posts yesterday but then today you say I continue to prove i have little understanding here.....I stated my opinion on counting to 10, you and ref want to attack me personally and Im the one with a problem.
                        so bang away mr 15k post expert.
                        I can take it ma'am

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                        • Originally posted by dTm View Post
                          So you give an excuse why this easy obvious call is missed and so its end of story
                          what have you done mr expert cuz you have ref in your name?
                          go ahead and attack me all you want and keep making worthless posts instead of staying on topic
                          Unlike the lemmings on this site just because you or wudrwu says it doesnt make it gospel.
                          God forbid someonw has a different opinion from you obvious experts.
                          Hey what did I do?

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                          • WSU lost beacuse they shot horribly. I don't think that there is a planned movement behind the scenes against WSU, and neither does Coach Marshall (Lutz, you clown). Having said that: Did Williams even touch that guy on the foul call that gave ISU their winning margin in the form of two free-throws? That's the one that chapped me. I see that kind of ticky-tac officiating in college basketball all too often.

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                            • I didn't say you were a complete idiot. Just one when it comes to the discussion at hand.
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                              • Looked like contact from the far end zone. I thought that it would be a no-call.

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