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Kansas State at Wichita State (Intrust) Game Thread 12-5-21

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  • I know Tyson’s shooting and shot selection was horrendous, but please don’t overlook the missed front end of the one and one at the end. Came up small at the line against drake, Arizona and now kstate. That is a bit concerning.
    Last edited by mattdalt; December 5, 2021, 08:51 PM.

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    • We beat OSU by pressing, using zone, switching defenses. Where was that

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      • Looking at this from a player's standpoint (non TE)...I have a real hard time staying on the ship if TE's selfish play isn't addressed immediately. I don't care if I'm the next best or the last walk-on....you have a roster full of kids who are being asked to sacrifice a lot of things, to put in a lot time, a lot of work - all for Wichita State. When our best player gets to play for Tyson Etienne #1 and Wichita State #2 how long do you expect the others to go along with this (looking at you IB)?

        Don't think for a second these kids will keep eating chicken **** bc IB and TE insist its chicken salad

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        • Originally posted by pinstripers View Post
          We beat OSU by pressing, using zone, switching defenses. Where was that
          Need to call out whatever coach had the scout. This was a terrible game plan, or terrible execution, not sure which.

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          • Originally posted by Dan View Post

            I know we all like to make fun of Stevenson, but Tyson is doing exactly what ES likes do with his selfish play. The difference is that ES gets steals and blocks. Not saying I prefer ES, but goes to show how bad Tyson is right now.
            YUPPPPPPP

            I would argue Tyson’s shot selection is even worse. Off balance, highly contested long range threes??? Long distance threes early in the shot clock??? I’m not a ES fan by ANY MEANS, but holy sh*t Tyson has the worst shot selection I’ve ever seen

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            • Do we not set solid picks? or do we not come off picks properly? nearly every open ksu shot came of a curl, etc....how do we fix that?

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              • Every time a Shocker player goes to the NBA camp they come back playing like sht. Same bullsht happen with DD.

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                • Originally posted by Dan View Post

                  Need to call out whatever coach had the scout. This was a terrible game plan, or terrible execution, not sure which.
                  Who gives a crap who had the scout...you make adjustments in game.

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                  • Originally posted by Shocktheheck View Post
                    Do we not set solid picks? or do we not come off picks properly? nearly every open ksu shot came of a curl, etc....how do we fix that?
                    Our guards suck at using screens
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                    • Originally posted by Shocktheheck View Post
                      Do we not set solid picks? or do we not come off picks properly? nearly every open ksu shot came of a curl, etc....how do we fix that?
                      I haven't seen a curl come of a screen for a midrange shot all year. A pitiful performance by WSU. Totally disgusted.

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                      • Originally posted by TheShocktocles View Post
                        Every time a Shocker player goes to the NBA camp they come back playing like sht. Same bullsht happen with DD.
                        At least Dex doesn't go around forcing ****. He still plays great D. My only knock on Dex is his failure to hit wide open shots.
                        Infinity Art Glass - Fantastic local artist and Shocker fan
                        RIP Guy Always A Shocker
                        Carpenter Place - A blessing to many young girls/women
                        ICT S.O.S - Great local cause fighting against human trafficking
                        Wartick Insurance Agency - Saved me money with more coverage.
                        Save Shocker Sports - A rallying cry

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                        • Worst coaching performance tonight in his short tenure for sure. How do you not milk Mo all night? He could've gone for 30. We had them smoked early in the game...could've run them out of the building...and then went dumb...dumb...dumb.
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                          AP Poll History of Wichita St:
                          Number of Times Ranked: 157
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                          • Originally posted by SubGod22 View Post

                            At least Dex doesn't go around forcing ****. He still plays great D. My only knock on Dex is his failure to hit wide open shots.
                            I agree. His D is so valuable. To the point where we pretty much go 4 on 5 at the offensive end with him nowadays.

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                            • Originally posted by TheShocktocles View Post
                              They let Weber duck us for 10 years and then let him come to Wichita and play on a neutral court. Fuk the dumb stupid mf that agreed to the series. And where do we play next year. At their arena. . Not even in KC. I am so sick and tired of the clowns bending down for them on negotiations. Now all 5he clowns clamoring to play them has Weber foot up their ass. A major disgrace to the Shocks losing to these clowns. Our offense has to be something other than letting TE shooting the ****** ball. . Fuk that. Threw away all of our good will by losing to this trash.
                              This game was awful not gonna argue that, but we without a doubt got the better end of the scheduling agreement. It was basically a 3 home 1 away 1 neutral for us

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                              • This was 1 game on the schedule that they could not lose. And these coaches and players let this city down by losing to this trash..

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