Why Tyson's game winning shot wasn't a bad shot

[Horn28Clem30]

Imagine him taking it to the basket .. .losing the ball then us fouling someone trying to get the ball back and we lose on FTs at the other end.

Imagine him getting stripped on his initial move and they get a breakaway layup and we lose the game.

Imagine him starting the play, passing the ball, someone else gets antzy and shoots too early, they get the rebound and get a break away and we lose the game.

Imagine us driving, getting stuffed again, then losing after that.

I can go on all day.

Exactly, was nothing but net and a game winner...therefore it was a good shot. No further discussion needed!

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

Imagine him taking it to the basket .. .losing the ball then us fouling someone trying to get the ball back and we lose on FTs at the other end.

Imagine him getting stripped on his initial move and they get a breakaway layup and we lose the game.

Imagine him starting the play, passing the ball, someone else gets antzy and shoots too early, they get the rebound and get a break away and we lose the game.

Imagine us driving, getting stuffed again, then losing after that.

I can go on all day.

My point exactly...

[asiseeit]

Your dodging - what % of fans here would have been very upset with both TE and coach
had he missed and we lost?

[pie n eye]

Imagine instead of Tyson with the ball in his hands at that moment it The Process instead.

[pie n eye]

Your dodging - what % of fans here would have been very upset with both TE and coach
had he missed and we lost?

If he misses the worst that happens is the game goes to overtime. I’ll take our chances in OT and, win or lose, the game would then be decided on how we played in the OT period.

I would have been upset if he turned the ball over or didn’t get a shot off at all.

[1972Shocker]

RH: Etienne Saves Shockers

https://goshockers.com/news/2021/11/9/the-roundhouse-rh-wichita-state-wins-opener-in-final-seconds.aspx

The tape measure says Tuesday's game-winning shot came from 31 feet, 9 inches. Also accurately, it came from years of practice in gyms in New Jersey, Connecticut, New York, Wichita and others around the country.

It came from moments such as Tuesday afternoon, when Wichita State guard Tyson Etienne returned to the court after shoot-around to get in a few more shots with former Shocker student manager Conner Shank. It came from Etienne's inspiration to put in the work to emulate Portland's Damien Lillard, his favorite NBA player.

The shot came from 31 feet, 9 inches, right in the middle of a shock of wheat hair in the Shocker logo. It also came from a lifetime of devotion to the sport and the behind-the-scenes grind it takes to build the confidence and earn the credit to take that shot.

"I put myself in that position every day," Etienne said. "I was confident that I made it, because I've made it so many times. I could have gone to the rim, but I felt like me shooting that shot would be the same as getting to the rim."

The shot will attract a lot of attention for its boldness, but his teammates consider that distance very much in Etienne's normal routine.

"I've probably seen that shot 100 times," said teammate Dexter Dennis.

"That's what he works on," center Kenny Pohto said. "I know he can make it."

Coach Isaac Brown admitted he might have preferred a drive to the basket. Etienne has earned the right to shoot that shot.

"He's one of those guys," Brown said. "Everything he does in a game, he does in practice. I've seen it a lot."

[SubGod22]

In fact if you look at the replay, you see Craig Porter starting to come over and set a screen then decided otherwise and let Tyson have some room. Smart IQ for CP. And TE had the option of penetrating for a pull up closer 3 or midrange. But he did what Tyson always does. As DD said he has seen TE make that shot 100 times in practice. Yikes! Go Shocks.

Watch the video again, but this time, keep your eyes on IB. He waved off the screen from CP. Not knocking Porter, but this was an IB call.

[ShockerFever]

If he misses the worst that happens is the game goes to overtime. I’ll take our chances in OT and, win or lose, the game would then be decided on how we played in the OT period.

I would have been upset if he turned the ball over or didn’t get a shot off at all.

You think the possession is less valuable because the worst result is that it is going to overtime? Overtime isn’t a win. It’s a loss 50% of the time.

If that was a 40% shot for TE, why didn’t he just dribble 10 feet closer and take a 60% shot?

If that is our best play with 10 seconds left in the game, and we face that situation another 10 times, how many times do you think that works?

[pie n eye]

You think the possession is less valuable because the worst result is that it is going to overtime? Overtime isn’t a win. It’s a loss 50% of the time.

If that was a 40% shot for TE, why didn’t he just dribble 10 feet closer and take a 60% shot?

If that is our best play with 10 seconds left in the game, and we face that situation another 10 times, how many times do you think that works?

“Overtime is a loss 50% of the time.”

Huh?

I’ve already broken down the potential drawbacks of a few of the other options. I don’t know what more you want me to say.

Tyson is our best offensive player and that’s a shot he’s capable of hitting.

If I’m going to knock Tyson for anything it’s the two bad turnovers that allowed JSU to get back into the game when we were up 4 late. We could have prevented the need for a last second shot at all if we’d made a bucket or two on one or both of those possessions.

[ShockerFever]

“Overtime is a loss 50% of the time.”

Huh?

I’ve already broken down the potential drawbacks of a few of the other options. I don’t know what more you want me to say.

Tyson is our best offensive player and that’s a shot he’s capable of hitting.

If I’m going to knock Tyson for anything it’s the two bad turnovers that allowed JSU to get back into the game when we were up 4 late. We could have prevented the need for a last second shot at all if we’d made a bucket or two on one or both of those possessions.

Huh what? Do our chances of winning go up if we get it to overtime?

[asiseeit]

no, no, no, no.........YES. if THAT is a high % shot why isn't he shooting them regularly??
I was thrilled with the outcome but not the way it went down

[Kel Varnsen]

"A step back, tightly-contested 3 from 35 feet is a good shot when we had 10-15 seconds to initiate a play."

I love Tyson as much as the next guy, but listen to yourselves. That's a shot that Steph Curry would make only around 20% of the time, if that.

[pie n eye]

Huh what? Do our chances of winning go up if we get it to overtime?

I don’t understand how you concluded there was a 50% of winning the game if it went to overtime. Can you please explain your logic?

[TheShocktocles]

Watch the video again, but this time, keep your eyes on IB. He waved off the screen from CP. Not knocking Porter, but this was an IB call.

Ok. Good point.

[1972Shocker]

If that was a 40% shot for TE, why didn’t he just dribble 10 feet closer and take a 60% shot?

That assumes nothing changes if dribbles to the 3 point line. My guess is as he moves in the defense probably tightens and perhaps even puts on a double team. It would not be the same shot just 10 feet closer.