Everyone needs to move over and make room

[martymoose]

The bandwagon is about to fill up.

[Shocker85]

The bandwagon is about to fill up.

Yah, was thinking about that. Just like '06 we gotta squeeze together, prepare for the posts from the 'wagoners, and and don our flak jackets for the responses from the long-timers.

--'85.

[ShockBand]

Just enjoy the ride, everyone.

[wu_shizzle]

When the cats and birds jump on, don't hate. Just take it as a compliment and enjoy the ride.

[Aargh]

They are going to be unbearable next year when the Shox are down. Until they fall off the wagon and give up posting.

[WSU757]

Which means more national exposure, which means better recruiting, which means better teams, which means more tournament apprearences, which means more chances at national championships, which means more $$$$ to WSU!

Come aboard!

[kcshocker11]

They are going to be unbearable next year when the Shox are down. Until they fall off the wagon and give up posting.

Dont think we will be down as much as you think

[Snapshot9]

I don't either. With Early, Hawkins, Green, VanVleet, and Armstead and Baker coming onboard, I think we will be okay, and even good. Depends on how fast these guys figure out Div-1 ball. I have only 2 concerns right now. First, I have made it known before that I consider a PG that can't shoot only half a guard. Ragland can shoot, as could Hannah, and they carried the game several times during thier seasons. I don't know how Armstead shoots the ball, especially the 3 ball, and Cotton doesn't shoot much on Offense, and it makes me wonder just how good a scorer he will be when he has to step up his game. VanVleet, I think, is a good scorer, and he could end up beating Cotton out for minutes next year because of it.

My other concern is with the 5 position: I know it will be Orukpe and Hall trading off, and I just wonder if we will get enough Offense out of those 2. Hall will be okay, but at 6'8" he may experience trouble with some teams at times, especially in Post season games. I think Orukpe will improve Offensively during the offseason, but the question is, will it be enough?

[Downtown Shocker Brown]

Ummmmmmm,

On this dropoff thing.

Returning Players: Williams (PG), Armstead (PG), Baker (SG), Mitchell (SG), Wessell (SF), White (CF), Vautravers (CF), Anacreon (PF), Hall (PF), Orukpe (C).

That is experience in every position, with multiple years in the system for Williams. He and Armstead may see time together, but I expect them to alternate and relieve each other. Combine the experience of these players, with the talent of those coming in, and we are looking solid for next year.

[SpanglerFan316]

I agree that the Shocks will not drop that much but I would say we will be "Top Three" and not "The Top Dog" like this year. I would also count Hall as a "5" (center) rather than a "4" (PF) next year. I hope Henry Uwadiae redshirts next year and we depend on Hall and Orukpe in the middle. (Imagine if Marshall had redshirted Stutz in his freshman year.) Finally, I'm not optimistic about Anacreon being back next year; Marshall wants players to be part of a team (his team) and I'm not sure Anacreon is "getting it."

[shoxlax]

Ummmmmmm,

On this dropoff thing.

Returning Players: Williams (PG), Armstead (PG), Baker (SG), Mitchell (SG), Wessell (SF), White (CF), Vautravers (CF), Anacreon (PF), Hall (PF), Orukpe (C).

That is experience in every position, with multiple years in the system for Williams. He and Armstead may see time together, but I expect them to alternate and relieve each other. Combine the experience of these players, with the talent of those coming in, and we are looking solid for next year.

....and Tekele whom everyone seems to forget.

[Downtown Shocker Brown]

....and Tekele whom everyone seems to forget.

I keep hoping the Valley will. So I try to keep up.

People thought the Valley hated seeing Murry for 4 years....

[1972Shocker]

It's not so much who we have back and coming in as it is the firepower, experience and leadership we are losing with Garrett, Toure, Joe, Ben and David.

It's one thing losing JT, Gabe, Graham and Aaron when we had such a strong core coming back. Now with that core group of guys moving on it is hard for me not to expect some drop off. How much remains to be seen, but I am expecting some drop-off next year.

[shoxlax]

DWill, Armstead, Early, Hall and White start. EO, Baker, Cotton, FVV, Hawkins and Wessell are the main subs. Mitchell, Anacreon, and Vautrevers are there if we need them. Derail and Henry redshirt.

The wild card is someone like Wiggins and how he fits in.

[shoxlax]

It's not so much who we have back and coming in as it is the firepower, experience and leadership we are losing with Garrett, Toure, Joe, Ben and David.

It's one thing losing JT, Gabe, Graham and Aaron when we had such a strong core coming back. Now with that core group of guys moving on it is hard for me not to expect some drop off. How much remains to be seen, but I am expecting some drop-off next year.

Agree, top four in the league would be realistic. Fifth would not even be outlandish.

I do think the team will get better as the year goes on.