The NCAA and UCONN

[WuDrWu]

I heard that UCONN has submitted a proposal to the NCAA that includes self imposed sanctions for failing to meet the APR, in exchange for NOT being excluded from the NCAA basketball tournament for 2013, as they are scheduled to in fact miss.

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/college/basketball/view/20120209uconn_proposes_own_penalties_to_ncaa_over_apr_failures/srvc=home&position=recent

http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/47887/oneil-ncaa-should-deny-uconn-proposal

Thoughts?

[_kai_]

This is their argument: "By the letter of the law, we should be punished with this, but we're UCONN, so how about we do all of this, and you just ignore the actual rule."

[molly jabali]

Agree...."We're the defending champs!!! We get benefits!!!"

[Shocker85]

I heard that UCONN has submitted a proposal to the NCAA that includes self imposed sanctions for failing to meet the APR, in exchange for NOT being excluded from the NCAA basketball tournament for 2013, as they are scheduled to in fact miss.

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/college/basketball/view/20120209uconn_proposes_own_penalties_to_ncaa_over_apr_failures/srvc=home&position=recent

http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/47887/oneil-ncaa-should-deny-uconn-proposal

Thoughts?

Nothing from UConn surprises. Calhoun walks a fine line between winning and cheating. He has always stretched the rules like he thinks that program is above the rules. The sad thing is that they will probably get concessions, just like the NCAA has always done for the influential programs in football and basketball.

With the NCAA, rule enforcement is subjective. I'm sure there is a prevasive mentality that some programs are too important to enforce sanctions upon. It sucks and it's wrong, but it's their party.

Probably the saddest part of the whole thing is that schools couldn't take the initiative to do this without the cloud of sanctions hanging over their heads. It has always troubled me that the term "student-athlete" at many schools really just means "athlete."

--'85.

[SubGod22]

Graduate your student-athletes and you don't have to worry about it.

If they don't get punished, the NCAA is exposed for the fraud that they are.

[tw805]

Graduate your student-athletes and you don't have to worry about it.

If they don't get punished, the NCAA is exposed for the fraud that they are.

That exposure came a long, long time ago for the NCAA, and it clearly doesn't bother them.

[calfan]

Let me see if I understand this,
UConn in the past have used their student athletes to make money for UConn
without giving them a good education.

The NCAA changed the rules and they agreed to the rules.
Other schools have been penalized for not meeting the new standards.

UConn doesn't think it should have to follow the rules.
It alone should decide it's punishment for not following the rules.

UConn should not be allowed to play in the NCAA Tournament next year,
and remember that in the past they didn't care about the student in student athlete as much as
they cared about the NCAA money.

I guess if they can do this, then if WSU ever breaks a rule we should be allowed to choose our punishment.

[GarH]

Even though it Uconn, I don't think they will get an exception. That would open a can of worms for the future that I don't think they want opened. It would be a horrible precedent.

[WstateU]

Let me see if I understand this,
UConn in the past have used their student athletes to make money for UConn
without giving them a good education.

The NCAA changed the rules and they agreed to the rules.
Other schools have been penalized for not meeting the new standards.

UConn doesn't think it should have to follow the rules.
It alone should decide it's punishment for not following the rules.

UConn should not be allowed to play in the NCAA Tournament next year,
and remember that in the past they didn't care about the student in student athlete as much as
they cared about the NCAA money.

I guess if they can do this, then if WSU ever breaks a rule we should be allowed to choose our punishment.

When it comes to the NCAA,
nothing surprises me.

[Kung Wu]

I heard that UCONN has submitted a proposal to the NCAA that includes self imposed sanctions for failing to meet the APR, in exchange for NOT being excluded from the NCAA basketball tournament for 2013, as they are scheduled to in fact miss.

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/college/basketball/view/20120209uconn_proposes_own_penalties_to_ncaa_over_apr_failures/srvc=home&position=recent

http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/47887/oneil-ncaa-should-deny-uconn-proposal

Thoughts?

Approved.

[shox1989]

If it were WSU, we would probably get a 3 year ban from TV and post-season play.

[shoxlax]

Trying to figure out how this somehow gives us retroactively a win in Maui and an at large berth.

[WSUwatcher]

Trying to figure out how this somehow gives us retroactively a win in Maui and an at large berth.

Where's that damn time machine when we need it?

[Good News]

I could be wrong since I'm relying on memory, but an additional headwind to them getting a waiver is that when the APR and punishment were introduced they were identified as one of the teams that wouldn't have made the tournament had the policy been in force (I think K-State was another one?).

i.e. - they had a chance to address it and didn't. Giving them a waiver sets two horrible precedents, not just one.

[tropicalshox]

The NCAA denies the wavier request. UConn will appeal.

http://www.theday.com/article/20120210/INTERACT010103/120219973