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  • #16
    This is as dumb of a post as the posts that 100% blame IB for the failings of the current team and extrapolate from that.

    3G owes FVV some credit for his success ... yes...
    FVV owes 3G some credit for his success also.

    The same that 3G owns some responsibility for the failures of the current team and IB owns some responsibility for the failures.

    Constantly playing this "well if 3g were here ..." or "Well if 3G didn't have FVV ...." game is dumb and a completely impossible argument to prove. So lets shut up, thank all the parties involved for what has happened in the past no matter who is responsible for it and move on.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Stickboy46 View Post
      This is as dumb of a post as the posts that 100% blame IB for the failings of the current team and extrapolate from that.

      3G owes FVV some credit for his success ... yes...
      FVV owes 3G some credit for his success also.

      The same that 3G owns some responsibility for the failures of the current team and IB owns some responsibility for the failures.

      Constantly playing this "well if 3g were here ..." or "Well if 3G didn't have FVV ...." game is dumb and a completely impossible argument to prove. So lets shut up, thank all the parties involved for what has happened in the past no matter who is responsible for it and move on.
      Agreed.

      Can you take this sentiment over to the our 'Rebounding Will Be The Death Of Us' thread please?

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      • #18
        If Marshall was still the coach and the Shox were 10-4 and in sole possession of 2nd place in the league, SN would be filled with posts saying what a genius Marshall was, and how the results prove that he's a HoF coach, and touting him as easily the best coach in the nation.
        The future's so bright - I gotta wear shades.
        We like to cut down nets and get sized for championship rings.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Aargh View Post
          If Marshall was still the coach and the Shox were 10-4 and in sole possession of 2nd place in the league, SN would be filled with posts saying what a genius Marshall was, and how the results prove that he's a HoF coach, and touting him as easily the best coach in the nation.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Aargh View Post
            If Marshall was still the coach and the Shox were 10-4 and in sole possession of 2nd place in the league, SN would be filled with posts saying what a genius Marshall was, and how the results prove that he's a HoF coach, and touting him as easily the best coach in the nation.
            With all due respect, and I mean all due respect, can you just STFU?

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Aargh View Post
              If Marshall was still the coach and the Shox were 10-4 and in sole possession of 2nd place in the league, SN would be filled with posts saying what a genius Marshall was, and how the results prove that he's a HoF coach, and touting him as easily the best coach in the nation.
              Hell no it wouldn’t. People were claiming Peter Principle on his ass the year we took 2nd in the league and got a 5 seed in the tourney.

              The biggest difference between having Gregg Marshall as our coach right now vs Isaac Brown is track record. Marshall was a known quantity because he had been here forever and a head coach for even longer.

              Through no fault of his own Isaac Brown was thrust into the role of head coach a month or two into the season. He and his assistants are adapting to new roles on the fly while trying win basketball games and make his team better. All in the middle of a stupid pandemic.

              It’s fair to be unsure of what the future holds with Brown. How could we possibly know what to expect? This is all as new to us as it is to him.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by ABC View Post

                With all due respect, and I mean all due respect, can you just STFU?
                I HATE the 'f' word, but I'm still laughing at your post...:)

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Aargh View Post
                  If Marshall was still the coach and the Shox were 10-4 and in sole possession of 2nd place in the league, SN would be filled with posts saying what a genius Marshall was, and how the results prove that he's a HoF coach, and touting him as easily the best coach in the nation.
                  Well, there would still be the issue of "timeouts".

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                  • #24
                    IB is a genius for improving Mo's free throw percentage! Absolutely brilliant move.

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                    • #25
                      What Fred, fHCGM, Bake, Weasel and the Lost Scholarship, and everything else that went on could not have been done alone. They all needed each other, depended on each other, believed in what mattered the most, and created something unique and special that will never be duplicated. Their successes was dependent, directly correlated, and even synergistic. They're all better for it. And so are we.

                      Thank you Shocker Nation.

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                      • #26
                        Fred was gonna make it because Fed is a smart dude and a hard worker. He picked WSU because he’s smart and knew that it was the right fit for him, the same way he picked the Raptors. GM was gonna win a lot of games with or without Fred, it just so happened that the stars aligned and the two came together for 4 years.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by ShockAzs View Post
                          What Fred, fHCGM, Bake, Weasel and the Lost Scholarship, and everything else that went on could not have been done alone. They all needed each other, depended on each other, believed in what mattered the most, and created something unique and special that will never be duplicated. Their successes was dependent, directly correlated, and even synergistic. They're all better for it. And so are we.

                          Thank you Shocker Nation.
                          You should listen to Round House podcast hosted by Paul Suellentrop. The episode with Chad Gibney. He was a basketball manager from 2010 thru 2016. He is now the women’s head coach at Western Nebraska Juco. Interesting comments he makes about his time with all the coaches. The podcasts are on GoShockers.

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