Wichita State vs. Newman Game Thread

[1972Shocker]

No doubt about it Tulsa played better. But the Coog fans just say their guards just missed to many open shots and free throws to win. They say that how they shot was not their normal play. So I guess we will get a chance to see tomorrow.

I believe the Houston-SMU game is on Sunday. But I have to admit. Today has felt like Saturday.

[TheShocktocles]

Yep. The eye doesn't lie (just the brain does).

The Coogs didn't have the guards to beat the Hurricane from where I sat.

No doubt about it Tulsa played better. But the Coog fans just say their guards just missed to many open shots and free throws to win. They say that how they shot was not their normal play. So I guess we will get a chance to see tomorrow.

[ShockingButTrue]

We seem to have several good pont guards. But according to the so-call3d experts on the AAC message board K. Davis of SMU is the best pont guard In the league. Nobody can guard him. And Houston has the best perimeter guards in the league. They are a cut bove everyone. else.. SMU and Houston play tomorrow. So we can all watch the greatness tomorrow.

Yep. The eye doesn't lie (just the brain does).

The Coogs didn't have the guards to beat the Hurricane from where I sat.

[TheShocktocles]

I agree. He's a good Point Guard.

We seem to have several good pont guards. But according to the so-call3d experts on the AAC message board K. Davis of SMU is the best pont guard In the league. Nobody can guard him. And Houston has the best perimeter guards in the league. They are a cut bove everyone. else.. SMU and Houston play tomorrow. So we can all watch the greatness tomorrow.

[ShockingButTrue]

Trevin’s alley oop dunk was impressive. That dude is really quick and can jump. Seems to shoot the ball well.

I agree. He's a good Point Guard.

[wichshock65]

One thing I took away was I'm glad RCIV is on our team. We will be riding him like a horse. Dude makes everything look smooth and easy. Runs the floor like Cle.

[WeWillShockU]

Trevin’s alley oop dunk was impressive. That dude is really quick and can jump. Seems to shoot the ball well.

[asiseeit]

Surely there are some types of knee braces that would help. Secondly, when he comes in play a
2-2-1 or 1-3-1 zone limiting the space he has to cover just within 4-6 feet of the basket. When we
fast break have him remain back like Ralph Miller had his big men do to protect breaks back the
other way. Should be able to get 10-15 quality minutes a game out of him this way.

[SB Shock]

Was the fatty tumor the injury that was holding him back and became the reason for redshirting? From a layman's POV, a fatty tumor doesn't seem that dangerous.

That was what they reported over the summer - there is likely more going on than they are actually saying. They also said he didn't get back to the U.S. to get it rehab, so that may be leading to the problems he is having now, or it could be something completely new - Idk. But sometimes you have to have surgery to fix the surgery you had.

But, again with HCIB saying he is only at 80% - that not going to get fixed in season. How much he plays will likely be due to his pain tolerance and how his body handles the rigors of the schedule.

[Shockm]

He had surgery over the summer to remove a "fatty tumor" that was located right above his knee. Every time they have held him out they have said it because he has been experiencing swelling from practice, but he would be available for real opponents.

I also believe HCIB on his coaches or pregame show a few weeks ago said he was only at 80%. If that is the case, I would not expect him to be able to be counted on. He probably needs the offseason to properly rehab his injury and get fully healed.

Was the fatty tumor the injury that was holding him back and became the reason for redshirting? From a layman's POV, a fatty tumor doesn't seem that dangerous.

[SB Shock]

Is this an injury from last year or an offseason injury? I thought Mike Kennedy has said numerous times that he was injured all or on and off last year so he was redshirted. Maybe they are just taking it easy with him but chronic injuries aren't a good sign.

He had surgery over the summer to remove a "fatty tumor" that was located right above his knee. Every time they have held him out they have said it because he has been experiencing swelling from practice, but he would be available for real opponents.

I also believe HCIB on his coaches or pregame show a few weeks ago said he was only at 80%. If that is the case, I would not expect him to be able to be counted on. He probably needs the offseason to properly rehab his injury and get fully healed.

[Shockm]

Not sure. I only know that he had surgery on his knee in the offseason. Not all surgeries are created equal but it doesn’t surprise me that they’re being cautious.

If you are right, that's not good. He can use all of the playing time he can get, and we need his depth (therefore he needs to improve). I still think he has the potential to be a top player (maybe even a starter) if he can get the experience and show improvement..

[pie n eye]

Is this an injury from last year or an offseason injury? I thought Mike Kennedy has said numerous times that he was injured all or on and off last year so he was redshirted. Maybe they are just taking it easy with him but chronic injuries aren't a good sign.

Not sure. I only know that he had surgery on his knee in the offseason. Not all surgeries are created equal but it doesn’t surprise me that they’re being cautious.

[Shockm]

Holding players accountable doesn't require that they be benched for a mistake. There are other ways to hold players accountable. a coach doesn't have to show fans that he's holding players accountable by doing things that fans see.

There may be some benefit from not embarrassing players in front of fans and on TV. Holding them accountable without putting that on public display might be better received by players than having TV cameras follow them to the bench with the announcers describing their mistake.

Well I don't need to see the accountability, but hopefully whoever hires a new coach can see it. All I see right now is that the players play hard for him most of the time ( I've seen a player just standing, instead of diving on the court for a loose ball several times, and I see several players who don't go after rebounds very well) and seem to like him. If the coach says that screening out and not rebounding is a point of emphasis and he is going to hold players accountable, but noting happens, I'm not sure the point. I'm sure he talks about it during game review.

[Shockm]

Bilau is coming off an off season knee injury. Seems more likely they are just taking it easy with him than something to worry about.

Is this an injury from last year or an offseason injury? I thought Mike Kennedy has said numerous times that he was injured all or on and off last year so he was redshirted. Maybe they are just taking it easy with him but chronic injuries aren't a good sign.