Wichita State vs. Emporia State Game Thread 12-18-20

[Shockm]

I thought Shamet shot 50% at one point. I know other college players have.

I don't think he was that good. I think that Shamet was somewhere around 43-45% from 3. Maybe early in the year, he approached 50 but not consistently, and Shamet is a top NBA 3 point specialist. I think that Dexter's biggest weakness is his ball handling to be an NBA player. It is a little better this year, but still needs significant improvement to be a guard in the NBA. His left hand isn't very good.

[pie n eye]

I thought Shamet shot 50% at one point. I know other college players have.

47% is the career best mark. A few guys have shot over 50 for a single season but it’s very rare.

[ABC]

3-Point Field Goal Percentage Single Season Leaders and Records | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com (sports-reference.com)

[Downtown Shocker Brown]

47% is the career best mark. A few guys have shot over 50 for a single season but it’s very rare.

Joe Ragland shot over 50% his senior season.

[pie n eye]

If Dex can shoot around 40%, + or - a few % points, it will be huge for the team. Mike Kennedy (or someone) made the point that Dexters end of season numbers usually end up around 40% but the journey is full of high peaks and low valleys.

That’s kind of generally just how it goes for even great shooters but it would be nice if he could find a way to tighten his groupings to be a little more reliable on a game to game basis. We’re getting him open looks, he needs to keep taking them, they will fall.

I agree with everyone else regarding his mid range/drive game. I know the analytics guys want to turn basketball into a strict 3 point/layup/dunk/free throw game but you can’t just completely abandon the midrange, especially if you’re shooting wide open shots that you can hit at a high %.

[pie n eye]

Joe Ragland shot over 50% his senior season.

Correct and that backs up the “very rare” part of my post. One guy in how many years of shocker basketball?

[ABC]

For some reason, Ragland didn't make the list I posted above. That cites a minimum of 2.5 3s per game. Maybe he didn't reach that minimum. And it isn't clear if that is attempts or makes.

[ABC]

Ragland made 1.8 3s per game with 3.7 attempts. He should have shot more ! He shot an incredible 62% from 2.

Joe Ragland College Stats | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com (sports-reference.com)

[Dan]

Ragland shot 50% his sr. Year, Landry was around 40% I think.

[SHOXAAC]

DD has more offensive upside than Cotton. Cotton is /was a better defender.

Cotton is just a better basketball player overall than DD will ever be. DD is solid as a defender, an above average rebounder but not great, streaky shooter at best, poor ball handler which means he can't consistently create his own shot. He needs to stay in his lane and don't try and do too much.

[mattdalt]

Nobody shoots 50% from three, let alone better. Wtf?

NM

[Ted Lasso's Neighbor]

Complimentary tweet from ESU's Coach Doty -

[Shockm]

Cotton is just a better basketball player overall than DD will ever be. DD is solid as a defender, an above average rebounder but not great, streaky shooter at best, poor ball handler which means he can't consistently create his own shot. He needs to stay in his lane and don't try and do too much.

Cotton really didn’t become the basketball player you are touting until the end of his Junior and into his Senior year. He wasn’t a good shooter until after we lost the MVC Tournament (F 4 time he turned it on). Dexter has more potential than you give him credit for and his ball handling has improved this year.

[ShockTalk]

Cotton really didn’t become the basketball player you are touting until the end of his Junior and into his Senior year. He wasn’t a good shooter until after we lost the MVC Tournament (F 4 time he turned it on). Dexter has more potential than you give him credit for and his ball handling has improved this year.

Interesting that you feel that way.

His worst shooting year was his senior year: 41.2 FG% , 28.9 3pt%

His best FG% was his freshman year at 50.8%

HIs best 3pt% was his junior year at 37.1%. He shot his second best 3pt% his sophomore year at 36.4%.

Now his best FT% was his senior year at 70.5%.

[Shocker_Power]

Do us a favor and get some new material.

I will when I see better results.