2020-21 Annual "Transfer" Guess-a-thon

[Shock Top]

I believe you're talking about mine. When a player who is one of the main causes of chemistry issues on his underperforming team blames Marshall in public media for the chemistry issues on that team, it's time to air the biggest cause of dissension on that team.

I appreciate your post. I just know sometimes these posts have been known to be deleted in the past.

[Aargh]

Still amazed at some of your hatred for ES. He was a difference maker a lot of games.

Unfortunately, he was a difference-maker both ways. He appeared to be a malcontent, and the fact that it's reported that his transfer may have been encouraged gives my position (that he was a problem in the locker room) some credibility.

[Shock Top]

Still amazed at some of your hatred for ES. He was a difference maker a lot of games.

He left and made it clear why he thought it was mostly the fault of others.

That's not going to win you many Mr. Congeniality awards.

[MelvinLoudermilk]

Memphis? Can players transfer within the conference?

[NCAABound]

Unfortunately, he was a difference-maker both ways. He appeared to be a malcontent, and the fact that it's reported that his transfer may have been encouraged gives my position (that he was a problem in the locker room) some credibility.

Please give more detail on your knowledge. Or don't act like you know anything.

[ShockTalk]

GS must have pictures of Marshall with sheep. Of the 3 PG's, he was not the best or the second best. So, JB sets the Fr assist record and then is "recruited over" for a PG who is ABSOLUTELY NOT a PG, and the ABSOLUTELY NOT a PG gets a bunch of starts, which puts JB behind Dennis at SF. That's not a good strategy for player retention.

Same thing probably affected NF. It was obvious that GS had a VERY long leash and was going to be the PG of the future, despite his inability to play the position.

I thought ES would leave last year.

I suspect the players were lying to Eldridge when they told him everything was butterflies and unicorns among the players. Whoever did rooming assignments should be fired for putting Dennis and Stevenson together. Trash-talking, showboating white kid from the suburbs and a humble guy from a small town in Louisiana don't have a lot in common.

DG surprises me.

Morris' tweet that ES retweeted doesn't surprise me either. That team had some HUGE issues. Morris is blaming it on Marshall, but that's probably misplaced. Since Morris went public criticizing Marshall, I will share a tidbit I picked up back in the day when Morris and another player were missing practices because of "migraines" and "stomach ailments". Those were hangovers.

There was one time they got lost driving - yes, driving - home from the bar they were at and woke up their roommates at 4 AM when they finally found their way back to where they lived, after leaving the bar at 2 AM, I have that from an absolutely impeccable source who has nothing but the greatest love for the Shox and especially the players.

I was never going to tell that story because I have respect for the privacy of players off the court, but when Morris goes public taking a shot at Marshall, then some context of his opinion can be helpful. Morris and another player caused chemistry issues on that team, so Morris bagging on Marshall when Morris was one of the guys causing dissension is just wrong.

So, JB got 24 starts in his 30 games and GS got 12 in his 30.

I always have questioned why NF was signed or wanted to be signed here. A sophomore, who as you said, set the freshman assist record at WSU and another freshman who back out of his commit when UCLA fired the coach he signed with were both probably going to be ahead of him.

ES and DD looked very, very tight with each other throughout the Tulsa game. I know, just one example.

If Bilau is going to be primarily a 4 and did great in practice, along with Wade at the 4, DG maybe didn't see much future at his position here. It surprised me, too, so I'm just spit-ballin'.

[Shock Top]

Like already mentioned, "reached out" doesn't mean "knocking down the door to sign him".

On a personal level, it's good he is being looked at by a good group of teams. He might well land somewhere good, but i doubt he will be the star or "leader".

[Shock Top]

I always have questioned why NF was signed or wanted to be signed here. A sophomore, who as you said, set the freshman assist record at WSU and another freshman who back out of his commit when UCLA fired the coach he signed with were both probably going to be ahead of him.

To be fair, NF committed in the Fall and GS committed in the Spring.

Otherwise, you are probably right in that he would have looked elsewhere from the jump.

[Maizerunner08]

Hopefully this is it for transfers leaving...

[1979Shocker]

Yes surprised at JB, but not the rest. Wish them the best.

GS, TE, DD, TW, JaDun Michaels, Bilau...plus whoever else we snag on transfers or juco. Probably will go for another PG and C. I think we will be just fine.

I guess I am just not that surprised when 19-20 year old kids can change schools without waiting a year.

At least now there won't be any confusion on whether we're referring to Burton or Bilau when we say JB.

[ShockTalk]

To be fair, NF committed in the Fall and GS committed in the Spring.

Otherwise, you are probably right in that he would have looked elsewhere from the jump.

Thanks Shock Top

[1979Shocker]

Our only pg next year is GS. Hopefully there is a really good juco we can get. Losing 2 pg unexpectedly sucks.

Burton was never really a PG even though he played one on TV.

[asiseeit]

Never mind my theory

[ShockerPrez]

Burton was just a good solid player. Nothing against JB. He balled out.

He was a good talent. Wish him the best.

[NCAABound]

I'm looking at it from this perspective. I think both ES and JB felt that DD and GS were getting some preferential
treatment and part of the team agreed with them splitting the team into two camps - one camp siding with JB and
ES and the other with the coaches putting both DD and GS in the starting line up. I'd like to have Champions
weigh in on this theory and that is just what it is a theory. Don't quote me as making any kind of authortative
statement it's just my sensibilities kicking in when I try and add up the pieces and the timing. It seemed really odd
to me that GS suddenly became #1 PG right after quitting when at the time NF had clearly laid claim to #2 behind JB.
Now we have lost both.

I rarely agree...but well said.