So is everyone happy now???

[WichitaStateGuy]

It's called debt

In a falling rate environment, having fixed rate debt is losing money.

[WheatShock]

No I'm not happy, my 401K has lost $65,000 dollars and probably will reach 100K by the time it's said and done. I'll have to work two more years just to make this loss up.

I'm sure It'll come back. The good thing about it is that the contributions from at least my next couple of paychecks will buy a lot more shares than the last few have.

Back on topic I'm pretty happy with where the team is right now. Sometimes it's easy to forget just how young this team is.

[BOBB]

In a falling rate environment, having fixed rate debt is losing money.

Beat me to it. 6.5% student loan is downright usurious when the 10 yr treasury is .75% and the bank is charging you to keep money with them.

[ShockTalk]

I think a lot of our offensive struggles correlate to lack of offensive rebounding. We used to feast on second chance points. Not so much this year. We're just a little too undersized to dominate the boards like we used to. As for the rest of the season, I just want to see the team lock in and get mentally tough. I think we have the talent to rattle off a few wins in Ft Worth. If our guys can just play tough, confident and drop the egos at the door, we can do some damage.

I think there is a lot of other factors to consider when saying we have a lack of offensive rebounding. For the year, WSU has 374 offensive rebounds compared to our opponents 268. In our 7 conference loses, only 1 time were we out rebounded offensively (by 2) and that was the 33 point blowout, so we were bad on the Off Reb and a lot of other things. In the other 6 games, we had 77 Off Reb to opponents 44. In 3 of those games where we lost by a total of 7 points, we had 38 Off Reb to only 22 for the opponents. It would appear that we had a lot more opportunities to score but didn't, both before our offensive rebounds and afterwards. The offensive rebound wasn't the problem. Of those 3 games, had we made 2 buckets off the 4 more Off Rebs, we win, 2 buckets off of 6 more OffRs, we win, and 1 more bucket off of 6 more OffRs, we win. Poor shooting may have lead to those extra opportunities, but poor shooting after the OffRs caused the losses more than a lack of OffRs, IMHO.

[Dan]

I think there is a lot of other factors to consider when saying we have a lack of offensive rebounding. For the year, WSU has 374 offensive rebounds compared to our opponents 268. In our 7 conference loses, only 1 time were we out rebounded offensively (by 2) and that was the 33 point blowout, so we were bad on the Off Reb and a lot of other things. In the other 6 games, we had 77 Off Reb to opponents 44. In 3 of those games where we lost by a total of 7 points, we had 38 Off Reb to only 22 for the opponents. It would appear that we had a lot more opportunities to score but didn't, both before our offensive rebounds and afterwards. The offensive rebound wasn't the problem. Of those 3 games, had we made 2 buckets off the 4 more Off Rebs, we win, 2 buckets off of 6 more OffRs, we win, and 1 more bucket off of 6 more OffRs, we win. Poor shooting may have lead to those extra opportunities, but poor shooting after the OffRs caused the losses more than a lack of OffRs, IMHO.

We’ve always been known as an offensive rebounding team. Every coach knows we struggle to score and rely on offensive boards to get our points, it’s been that way for a while. It doesn’t surprise me that we still get more offensive rebounds than our opponents, but I’d be interested to see how our offensive rebounding compares to previous years, or better yet, how our 2nd Chance points compares to previous years. I don’t really care to look it up though. Just on a hunch, I bet it’s down.

[WstateU]

[Aargh]

So, is everyone happy now

Let me ask the same question another way

Are we undefeated?

[ShockerPrez]

Not Satisfied.

[abdullah_sharif]

It's called debt

avoid debt like the plague. markets look to be wanting to bottom.. i’m ready to buy again

[atlwsu]

avoid debt like the plague. markets look to be wanting to bottom.. i’m ready to buy again

I'm just ready to stop holding my breath.

[WstateU]

avoid debt like the plague. markets look to be wanting to bottom.. i’m ready to buy again

My 'Simple IRA' is getting complicated...

[ShockTalk]

We’ve always been known as an offensive rebounding team. Every coach knows we struggle to score and rely on offensive boards to get our points, it’s been that way for a while. It doesn’t surprise me that we still get more offensive rebounds than our opponents, but I’d be interested to see how our offensive rebounding compares to previous years, or better yet, how our 2nd Chance points compares to previous years. I don’t really care to look it up though. Just on a hunch, I bet it’s down.

I would agree that 2nd Chance points are probably down, but that's not the OffRs fault. I'm retired, so I looked it up for ya rather than going on a hunch.


Season/ Games / OffR / Game / + - / Game

2012-13 / 39 // 512 // 13.1 // +157 // 4.0

2013-14 / 36 // 419 // 11.6 // +80 // 2.2

2014-15 / 35 // 403 // 11.5 // +127 // 3.6

2015-16 / 35 // 408 // 11.6 // +127 // 3.6

2016-17 / 36 // 433 // 12.0 // +101 // 2.8

2017-18 / 33 // 405 // 12.3 // +131 // 4.0

2018-19 / 37 // 456 // 12.3 // +102 // 2.8

2019-20 / 31 // 374 // 12.0 // +106 // 2.9

Not sure I could make many correlations with Offensive Rebounding and success of season. What I can see is that we are consistently getting more rebounds than our opponents, but I cannot tell whether it's due to worse shooting on our part or just better at offensive rebounding.

Out of the last 8 years, 2019-20 does seem to be in the middle in both per game and plus/minus per game.

Our most successful overall season we had the most OffRs per game and tied for most plus per game.

Our best overall season record we had one of the fewest OffRs per game and the lowest plus per game.

Generally speaking, the change of conference has not made much of a difference numbers wise, but what we do see may be due to worse shooting leading to more opportunities for offensive rebounds.

[insaneykaney]

I'm happy, but not satisfied.