really??? 4300 people at the Tulsa game???

[wusphlash]

I have to admit that our fullcourt pressure seemed to bother the TU guards more than it should have. A full blown trapping press would really take them out of the ballgame.

[newshock1234]

they seem like they shoot lights out against us the last 2 years

[shockmonster]

I watched the espn replays of last years NIT games several times. The espn announcers, at least one of which as the same as last night, mentioned KsU and Ku a few times during our NIT games. They said positive things about what great programs they have and what great fan support they have. There was absolutely no reason for them to mention Ksu and Ku during our games last year except for the fact that we all happen to be from the same state.

I assumed that those same announcers would give us the same respect and mention the good job that Marshall is doing at WSU when they are doing a game in WICHITA.

I haven't watched a Kstate basketball game in years (probably since the last time they played WSU). The ONLY reason I watched last night was to hear what the national tv announcers might say about our program since they happened to be in WICHITA. Kstate basketball was very painful to watch last night, I am really surprised their fans can sit through those games. I think that even I can shoot the ball better than anyone on their team.

At any rate I was very disappointed that I wasted my time, if the announcers did mention WSU at all, I missed it.

On Sports Daily or somewhere, I heard that Bob Huggins had said something about the three major University basketball programs in Kansas and how Kansans should be proud of Kansas basketball. Does anyone know what may have been said?

[shox1989]

On Sports Daily or somewhere, I heard that Bob Huggins had said something about the three major University basketball programs in Kansas and how Kansans should be proud of Kansas basketball. Does anyone know what may have been said?

That was the kind of statement I was expecting to hear from the espn announcers during the game (its the kind of things they said during our NIT games-giving props to the other 2 Kansas schools who were sitting at home at the time).

If Huggins said it good for him, even if it was only on local radio.

[JJClamdip]

I am really miffed becasue they did not mention Friends, Kansas Newman or Kirsti Alley.

[ShockerPhi]

I've gotten used to ESPN not giving us credit ever. They always seem to talk about teams that aren't even involved in our games and have a casual chat about that as if our game is boring them. The only love we get from ESPN is Andy Katz. That's about it.

[SHOXAAC]

shox1989 - I enjoy most of your posts, but this love affair of yours with ESPN announcers and their courtship with WSU is weaker than watered down tea. Who gives a flip about announcers doing a game in Wichita between KSU & Huggy not including WSU in the menage a trois. Let's move on!!!

[TulsaFan]

hey Tulsafan, what does Doug make a year or what would his buyout cost I guess is what I'm really asking?

Exact details aren't available because it's a private university, but he makes about 500k in base salary and is under contract through the 2014-2015 season.

[BAShocker]

TU's new video board.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/TU/article.aspx?subjectid=94&articleid=20111216_94_B1_CUTLIN454169

[ShockTalk]

TU's new video board.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextr...1_CUTLIN454169

Unfortunately, that will really make all those empty seats show up.

[BikeIdiot]

Yea it was pretty sad, the Shocker fans were clearly louder than the TU fans. I almost felt sorry for them.

I agree. During the TV broadcast the WSU fans chanting DEFENSE during TU possessions was an embrasement for the home fans.

[BikeIdiot]

Beings that I live down here (Tulsa area), and was at the game...I'll give my two cents.
1). The fans I know of, like Wojick. He's a nice guy, active in the community, etc.
2). Remember, this is football country. Every headline in the local news is football first. Basketball takes a back seat.
3). Location to TU isn't the best for getting in/out. Most of the population that would go to a game, live south. The demographics of the town have changed a lot the last 20+ years. If the arena was in south Tulsa, they'd drawn more, IMO. Heck, it's easier - quicker to get to/from your home for an ORU game. (which by the way, if you ever get the chance, and have young kids...you need to go. Great family atmosphere at ORU).
4). Parking at TU games suck, and that's putting it nicely. If you think WSU parking is bad, you haven't seen nothing.
5). Again, media is an issue. They need more games on TV for the local fans to follow. Imagine if WSU didn't broadcast the Shockers away games, and a few of the home games. It's hard for TU to build a fan base without good local media backing.
6). Did I mention football? When the college football is "technically" over (bowl games), the average sport fans here need something to do before spring football starts back up. They'll pay attention to basketball at that time.
7). Not a very strong student body base. Nothing to help out there, just simply not a lot of students who would go watch a basketball game.

Add it all together, and you don't get many fans to a game. Honestly, I would imagine most folks here didn't even know there was a game last night.

That's pretty much the highlights...and I'm sure I'm missing something. That is all.

Good point, but it's not like WSU parking is wonderful, most fans don't live near Koch and while we have a good base of students, it's not like the student section is always packed full.

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[BikeIdiot]

I think that is a lot of Tulsa's problem too. They had an old fan base back in Nolan Richardson days and they haven't built new fans since then. Each year more of their fan
base dies off.

You have to get your games on TV if you want to expand your fan base. Tulsa hasn't been doing that.

Reviving the Wichita St-Tulsa Rivalry would probably do a lot more to help Tulsa than WSU. Unfortunately their Athletic Dept. doesn't seem to realize that.

Will they renew if we kick their butts for all games of the series?

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[BikeIdiot]

Their total take from tickets at full price was 38% less than the promoter for our game was charging if he had sold out the arena at full price. So our promoter left a lot of room for discounting. Plus their promoter (or someone) spent a lot more money on promotion than our promoter did (other than the $30,000 that WSU budgeted, I am not sure our promoter spent anything on promotion besides couponing).

So I am not sure money wise if KSU or the KSU promoter did come out ahead of WSU or the WSU promoter even with a full (or almost completely full) house.

I will say it does look a lot better full on TV then it does with 3,000 plus empty seats but since our game wasn't on TV I guess that didn't matter as much to us either.

I was disappointed that I never heard the espn announcers say one word about WSU. That is the only reason I watched the game, I figured with the game being in Wichita they would say something about WSU at some point in the game. If they mentioned the Shockers, I didn't hear it.

It didn't even say WICHITA anywhere on the hardwood, that I saw.

[shox1989]

It didn't even say WICHITA anywhere on the hardwood, that I saw.

Yeah but you can still drive to downtown Wichita right in front of IBA and see a street sign that says Wildcat Way.