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  • Originally posted by Cdizzle View Post

    If we're using percentages, they say that player had a 0% chance to make a 3.
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    He may be 0% from three up to that point but that doesn’t mean his chance to make his next three is zero. I know you know that.

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    • Originally posted by WuDrWu View Post

      No doubt some in game mistakes by players and coaches. It does happen, and when it does, on the road, it usually means a loss.

      BUT, the preparation was there that forged a big lead that kept it a tie until they could find a way.

      Both teams returned 3 starters from last year's game in Storrs. WSU Burton, Stevenson, Echenique & UCONN Gilbert, Vital, Carlton. All Husky players more highly regarded recruits.

      My point is pretty much the same teams matched up again. Except UCONN added 3 top 100 recruits vs our regular guys. And we go from losing by 20 and not being competitive to winning and probably should have won by 10 or more despite a tough whistle.

      Gregg gets credit for that. We have winners all over this program. And UCONN can eat a dick at McDonalds with all their priceless recruits in the Bleast. This is a man's conference and the men walked out of Storrs with the DUB.
      Well said!

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      • Originally posted by pie n eye View Post

        He may be 0% from three up to that point but that doesn’t mean his chance to make his next three is zero. I know you know that.
        Sure. Just like the probability of going to OT or losing in regulation after fouling is also not zero.
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        • I’m sure there is a definitive answer, in terms of score and time remaining, to when you should foul vs not foul. I don’t know what it is. Two coaches on the broadcast disagreed on 10 seconds left vs 5 seconds left.

          I believe it would not have mattered if Dexter hadn’t slipped on the court. The pass probably never even goes to that player and even if it does he would have been more closely guarded.

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          • Originally posted by pie n eye View Post
            I believe it would not have mattered if Dexter hadn’t slipped on the hockey rink. The pass probably never even goes to that player and even if it does he would have been more closely guarded.
            FIFY. And, agreed.

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            • Originally posted by Cdizzle View Post

              Sure. Just like the probability of going to OT or losing in regulation after fouling is also not zero.
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              Agreed that both approaches can succeed or fail on any given day.

              I’m sure there is an answer to which approach has been successful more often over time.

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              • That’s some funny reactions from the UCONN fans, they sound ku-ish. They really think there stepping up in competition? Don’t really see it in today’s basketball environment.

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                • Originally posted by pie n eye View Post

                  Agreed that both approaches can succeed or fail on any given day.

                  I’m sure there is an answer to which approach has been successful more often over time.
                  And I would wager that there is little statistical difference between the two.

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                  • Too bad UConn is leaving the American. This is getting fun!

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                    • WSU 4-2 all time vs UCONN?

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                      • I’ve had some time to think about the foul or not question. While I still agree we should’ve fouled, the most probable worst case scenario if we don’t is we go to OT. If we do foul, they go to the line with say five seconds left (probably about when we would’ve fouled).
                        They make both.
                        We still have to get the ball inbounds and with refs letting them get away with all types of contact it is a realistic scenario they steal the ball and score, it would actually be possible to lose the game. The other bad play that could transpire is the make the first free throw, miss the second and the ball gets batted out for a three attempt, another way to lose. We could get pushed out of position to get the rebound (no call) and then we allow a tip out, not probable but still a way to lose.

                        Still the high pct play to foul but given the game circumstances, our coach knowing our team better than anyone on this board, and the amount of time we would probably still have on the clock when we fouled, it is not as cut and dried as it sounds.

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                        • Just jumping in today and apologies if this has been posted before; a buddy sent me a Kenpom analysis that concludes defending and not fouling when up 3 late is statistically a superior strategy. It is from 2013. Is that view no longer in the majority? Again, sorry if this had previously been debunked.
                          Wear your seatbelt.

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                          • Originally posted by ABC View Post
                            WSU 4-2 all time vs UCONN?
                            Scoreboard.

                            Only losses were KembaGate in 2011 and last year there.
                            Deuces Valley.
                            ... No really, deuces.
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                            "Enjoy the ride."

                            - a smart man

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                            • Did Izzo foul at the end of the game today or not?

                              I'll hang up and listen.

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                              • Originally posted by Cdizzle View Post
                                Did Izzo foul at the end of the game today or not?

                                I'll hang up and listen.
                                THAT is funny!

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