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Originally posted by Kel Varnsen View Post
Before you go and fulfill every stereotype that people have for WSU fans, consider this from his Twitter bio...
“I base my AP poll vote on best teams, not best résumés.”
We are around the 24-25 range for KenPom and Haslametrics, although I’m stoked we are #16 in the AP poll. It’s not completely unreasonable to have us close to the fringe. And complaining about it on Twitter will not do anything for our cause.
How is the NET ranking? Or you just using the ones that fit your argument?"He called me around noon and was thrilled," Brandt said. "He said he was going to be a Shocker forever." -- RIP Guy, you WILL indeed be a Shocker forever!
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Originally posted by Kel Varnsen View Post
We are a fringe Top 25 team based on a decent amount of predictive metrics. Why are we going to revoke someone’s AP vote again? This kinda stuff just makes us look small.
2. By decent amount do you mean KP?
WSU Metrics:
KP - 25
NET - 9
Massey Composite - 16
Sagarin - 17
KPI - 11
Torvik - 12
WAB - 11
We are closer to Top 10 in metrics than we are 23.
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Originally posted by shockerfan View Post
Thank you KU Varnsen.
How is the NET ranking? Or you just using the ones that fit your argument?
The NET ranking is useful but not the best metric around. There are lots of others that people use, like the ones I mentioned. But I’m thrilled that we are as high as we are and hope we stay there."In God we trust, all others must bring data." - W. Edwards Deming
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Originally posted by Stickboy46 View Post
1. He voted KU higher than the team that just blew them out on their home floor. Homer vote. Baylor is the better team, resume everything. Zero reasoning to put KU over Baylor
2. By decent amount do you mean KP?
WSU Metrics:
KP - 25
NET - 9
Massey Composite - 16
Sagarin - 17
KPI - 11
Torvik - 12
WAB - 11
We are closer to Top 10 in metrics than we are 23."He called me around noon and was thrilled," Brandt said. "He said he was going to be a Shocker forever." -- RIP Guy, you WILL indeed be a Shocker forever!
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Originally posted by Kel Varnsen View Post
My post that you quoted had nothing to do with KU. Just the way Newell rated WSU. It’s fair to put us there because a decent amount of computer rankings have us there.
The NET ranking is useful but not the best metric around. There are lots of others that people use, like the ones I mentioned. But I’m thrilled that we are as high as we are and hope we stay there.
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Originally posted by Stickboy46 View Post
1. He voted KU higher than the team that just blew them out on their home floor. Homer vote. Baylor is the better team, resume everything. Zero reasoning to put KU over Baylor
2. By decent amount do you mean KP?
WSU Metrics:
KP - 25
NET - 9
Massey Composite - 16
Sagarin - 17
KPI - 11
Torvik - 12
WAB - 11
We are closer to Top 10 in metrics than we are 23."In God we trust, all others must bring data." - W. Edwards Deming
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Originally posted by Kel Varnsen View Post
NET, Massey, and WAB are not predictive metrics. They are all descriptive metrics or opinions. Torvik is a little of an outlier, though there may be value there.
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Originally posted by TheShocktocles View PostMaybe one of you know the answer, but I simply don't know. Does the NCAA selection committee rely upon KP or the net for purpose of selection and seeding?
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