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  • #46
    Originally posted by SB Shock
    Originally posted by ShoxFan963
    Originally posted by SB Shock
    But this game is not being held in kc, or Hutchinson, or el dorado, kinkingman, or ark city. It is being held in Wichita. It us not a neutral site. The NCAA had ruled it is a home game. You can call a balloon and airplane but it doesn't make it so. The UAB game us a home game.
    Nobody is arguing that it isn't a home game.
    Some are.
    You are arguing that it is a home game, therefore it should be a season ticket game. I see people (myself being one) explaining to you why its not a season ticket game. The explanation being that it is not WSU putting the game on. A promoter is putting the game on. It just so happens that the promoter feels like he will make the most money in Wichita.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by pogo
      Originally posted by SB Shock
      Originally posted by Kung Wu
      You mean we actually get a freaking home court advantage in a neutral game? Has that EVER happened before last year? Welcome to big time!

      Now ... does anybody know when the tickets go on sale? Do season ticket holders have priority or a day or two in advance to purchase tickets?

      I want good seats!
      Based on your giving levels you will have the option of purchasing seats in the upper level.
      Based on your giving levels you will have the option of purchasing seats ANYWHERE you can at the level you can afford or want to spend.
      no not really

      WSU season-ticket holders get first shot. They will receive a code that will allow them to buy tickets, based on priority points and history of giving. If you’re first in line, you can choose from any available seat. If you’re in the fourth group, you choose any remaining seats, and so on. WSU will not assign seats. Intrust Bank Arena will hold back an undetermined number of seats – some in prime locations
      Read more: http://blogs.kansas.com/shockwaves/2...#ixzz1WY1SLgmp

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      • #48
        Originally posted by AG1219
        Originally posted by SB Shock
        Originally posted by ShoxFan963
        Originally posted by SB Shock
        But this game is not being held in kc, or Hutchinson, or el dorado, kinkingman, or ark city. It is being held in Wichita. It us not a neutral site. The NCAA had ruled it is a home game. You can call a balloon and airplane but it doesn't make it so. The UAB game us a home game.
        Nobody is arguing that it isn't a home game.
        Some are.
        You are arguing that it is a home game, therefore it should be a season ticket game. I see people (myself being one) explaining to you why its not a season ticket game. The explanation being that it is not WSU putting the game on. A promoter is putting the game on. It just so happens that the promoter feels like he will make the most money in Wichita.
        No, all I have argued is that some season ticket holder are going to be suprised when they find out a WSU home game is not included in their season tickets and they are going to have to pay extra.

        Truly I understand that details with the promoter. And I have said I will be going to the game.

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        • #49
          Fair enough SB, and I'm glad you will be at the game. As for season ticket holders being upset about it not being in the package, maybe they missed the few media reports awhile back that mentioned that this won't be in the season ticket package.

          If you are arguing that they were aware of that, but now the price of the ticket isn't consistent with what they would pay per game at Koch. I would revisit my first post about what exactly is the cost breakdown per seat at Koch? I would bet after SASO fees are included a seat down low close to the floor would be somewhat close to the lower bowl cost.

          I could be wrong, I sit up high at Koch so my cost breakdown per game comes out to around $20 per game. So, it would probably suit me well to buy the $17 level. Or I could splurge and upgrade my ticket since I don't have to drive a few hours and incur travel costs to watch my beloved Shox play a neutral game against a similar team.

          Or, I could come on here and complain that we always get stuck paying for games at Koch against the Savannah States of the world.

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          • #50
            I will be curious to see how many show up. Obviously, not all of us season ticket holders can afford to go or are willing to pay the price for the seats we'll be stuck with.

            The average fan is not going to get excited about seeing UAB at IBA. That's not going to attract a lot of outside interest. There may be some sales to those who can't get into Koch to see games. I doubt many UAB fans will be here. 10k is the target number I'm looking at.

            I'd hate to see what ticket prices would be for a team with a name
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            • #51
              Re: Shocks vs UAB Ticket Prices

              Originally posted by The Mad Hatter
              Originally posted by SB Shock
              Originally posted by The Mad Hatter
              Originally posted by SB Shock
              This is for the KU vs WSU game right?

              Another strike for Sexton.
              You might check your facts about who set up this game and who determines ticket prices before blaming Sexton (or anyone at WSU for that matter).
              Sexton makes the ultimate decisions on the direction of the program so he will either get the credit or the blame. I think there will be some critiscm when those who are not well informed gets this game on their radar.

              I talked to some season ticket holders (who are not shockernetters) at work about this game and ticket prices. They were suprised this game was not in the ticket package and then when told of the prices felt like they were being ripped off.
              The only reason we have this game is because of a deal an outside promoter put together to get UAB here. Are you saying that you want WSU to pass on games against quality teams?

              We have this game instead of either road game or a game at Koch against a horrible buyout team. Last year everyone talked big about how they hated those buyout games and wanted to see better competition in Wichita. Now that it has been provided, people are complaining about the way it is being provided.

              The reason we could get UAB to come was because of the buyout provided by the outside organizer. How does that organizer fund such a buyout? Through the generated ticket revenue. If you want quality competition, put your wallet where you mouth is.
              In 07-08, UAB was a "one and done" at the Chuck (although surprisingly, I'll admit). Now they're an "additional purchase ticket" at IBA. Personally, I'd preferred a home and home and believe that since we were able to get them with this deal, we could have also had the h/h.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by SB Shock
                Originally posted by ShoxFan963
                Originally posted by SB Shock
                But this game is not being held in kc, or Hutchinson, or el dorado, kinkingman, or ark city. It is being held in Wichita. It us not a neutral site. The NCAA had ruled it is a home game. You can call a balloon and airplane but it doesn't make it so. The UAB game us a home game.
                Nobody is arguing that it isn't a home game.
                Some are.
                No, none were. You were arguing it was a home game that should be included in the season tickets everyone else said no.



                Originally posted by SubGod22
                I will be curious to see how many show up. Obviously, not all of us season ticket holders can afford to go or are willing to pay the price for the seats we'll be stuck with.

                The average fan is not going to get excited about seeing UAB at IBA. That's not going to attract a lot of outside interest. There may be some sales to those who can't get into Koch to see games. I doubt many UAB fans will be here. 10k is the target number I'm looking at.

                I'd hate to see what ticket prices would be for a team with a name
                I'm guessing ticket prices would be the same for a "name" opponent. The KSU vs WV is the same price as ours. The promoter needs to be able to cover $250k to WSU and UAB then make some money for themselves. Attendance is going to be based on how WSU is doing. If we're undefeted, expect a sellout. If our season is so-so, expect a lot of empty lower level seats.

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                • #53
                  Re: Shocks vs UAB Ticket Prices

                  Originally posted by ShockTalk
                  Originally posted by The Mad Hatter
                  Originally posted by SB Shock
                  Originally posted by The Mad Hatter
                  Originally posted by SB Shock
                  This is for the KU vs WSU game right?

                  Another strike for Sexton.
                  You might check your facts about who set up this game and who determines ticket prices before blaming Sexton (or anyone at WSU for that matter).
                  Sexton makes the ultimate decisions on the direction of the program so he will either get the credit or the blame. I think there will be some critiscm when those who are not well informed gets this game on their radar.

                  I talked to some season ticket holders (who are not shockernetters) at work about this game and ticket prices. They were suprised this game was not in the ticket package and then when told of the prices felt like they were being ripped off.
                  The only reason we have this game is because of a deal an outside promoter put together to get UAB here. Are you saying that you want WSU to pass on games against quality teams?

                  We have this game instead of either road game or a game at Koch against a horrible buyout team. Last year everyone talked big about how they hated those buyout games and wanted to see better competition in Wichita. Now that it has been provided, people are complaining about the way it is being provided.

                  The reason we could get UAB to come was because of the buyout provided by the outside organizer. How does that organizer fund such a buyout? Through the generated ticket revenue. If you want quality competition, put your wallet where you mouth is.
                  In 07-08, UAB was a "one and done" at the Chuck (although surprisingly, I'll admit). Now they're an "additional purchase ticket" at IBA. Personally, I'd preferred a home and home and believe that since we were able to get them with this deal, we could have also had the h/h.
                  FWIW, Creighton starts a home and home with UAB this year.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by martymoose
                    Originally posted by SB Shock
                    Originally posted by ShoxFan963
                    Originally posted by SB Shock
                    But this game is not being held in kc, or Hutchinson, or el dorado, kinkingman, or ark city. It is being held in Wichita. It us not a neutral site. The NCAA had ruled it is a home game. You can call a balloon and airplane but it doesn't make it so. The UAB game us a home game.
                    Nobody is arguing that it isn't a home game.
                    Some are.
                    No, none were. You were arguing it was a home game that should be included in the season tickets everyone else said no.



                    Originally posted by SubGod22
                    I will be curious to see how many show up. Obviously, not all of us season ticket holders can afford to go or are willing to pay the price for the seats we'll be stuck with.

                    The average fan is not going to get excited about seeing UAB at IBA. That's not going to attract a lot of outside interest. There may be some sales to those who can't get into Koch to see games. I doubt many UAB fans will be here. 10k is the target number I'm looking at.

                    I'd hate to see what ticket prices would be for a team with a name
                    I'm guessing ticket prices would be the same for a "name" opponent. The KSU vs WV is the same price as ours. The promoter needs to be able to cover $250k to WSU and UAB then make some money for themselves. Attendance is going to be based on how WSU is doing. If we're undefeted, expect a sellout. If our season is so-so, expect a lot of empty lower level seats.
                    How does IBA get compensated. Do they charge the promoter a flat fee or do the get a % of the gate?

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by 1972Shocker
                      Originally posted by martymoose
                      Originally posted by SB Shock
                      Originally posted by ShoxFan963
                      Originally posted by SB Shock
                      But this game is not being held in kc, or Hutchinson, or el dorado, kinkingman, or ark city. It is being held in Wichita. It us not a neutral site. The NCAA had ruled it is a home game. You can call a balloon and airplane but it doesn't make it so. The UAB game us a home game.
                      Nobody is arguing that it isn't a home game.
                      Some are.
                      No, none were. You were arguing it was a home game that should be included in the season tickets everyone else said no.



                      Originally posted by SubGod22
                      I will be curious to see how many show up. Obviously, not all of us season ticket holders can afford to go or are willing to pay the price for the seats we'll be stuck with.

                      The average fan is not going to get excited about seeing UAB at IBA. That's not going to attract a lot of outside interest. There may be some sales to those who can't get into Koch to see games. I doubt many UAB fans will be here. 10k is the target number I'm looking at.

                      I'd hate to see what ticket prices would be for a team with a name
                      I'm guessing ticket prices would be the same for a "name" opponent. The KSU vs WV is the same price as ours. The promoter needs to be able to cover $250k to WSU and UAB then make some money for themselves. Attendance is going to be based on how WSU is doing. If we're undefeted, expect a sellout. If our season is so-so, expect a lot of empty lower level seats.
                      How does IBA get compensated. Do they charge the promoter a flat fee or do the get a % of the gate?
                      Probably a %, but that's just a guess, I really have no idea.

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                      • #56
                        Since this is not a "home game" will their be student tickets available?
                        Shocker fan for life after witnessing my first game in person, the 80-74 win over the #12 Creighton Bluejays at the Kansas Coliseum.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by 1972Shocker
                          Originally posted by Kung Wu
                          You mean we actually get a freaking home court advantage in a neutral game? Has that EVER happened before last year? Welcome to big time!

                          Now ... does anybody know when the tickets go on sale? Do season ticket holders have priority or a day or two in advance to purchase tickets?

                          I want good seats!
                          The earliest date is September 13th, at least for those in my bosses' pecking order (which is pretty high).

                          They give you a code to use when calling the IBA ticket office or on-line at slectaseat .com. The order for selection is determined by your SASO priority points. Same process used for MVC Tourmanment and Post-Season seating.

                          The letter did not say how long the window is until sales are open to the general public.
                          According to the IBA website, tickets go on sale (to the general public) at 10am on Saturday, Sept. 17.

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                          • #58
                            Re: Shocks vs UAB Ticket Prices

                            Originally posted by ShockTalk
                            Originally posted by The Mad Hatter
                            Originally posted by SB Shock
                            Originally posted by The Mad Hatter
                            Originally posted by SB Shock
                            This is for the KU vs WSU game right?

                            Another strike for Sexton.
                            You might check your facts about who set up this game and who determines ticket prices before blaming Sexton (or anyone at WSU for that matter).
                            Sexton makes the ultimate decisions on the direction of the program so he will either get the credit or the blame. I think there will be some critiscm when those who are not well informed gets this game on their radar.

                            I talked to some season ticket holders (who are not shockernetters) at work about this game and ticket prices. They were suprised this game was not in the ticket package and then when told of the prices felt like they were being ripped off.
                            The only reason we have this game is because of a deal an outside promoter put together to get UAB here. Are you saying that you want WSU to pass on games against quality teams?

                            We have this game instead of either road game or a game at Koch against a horrible buyout team. Last year everyone talked big about how they hated those buyout games and wanted to see better competition in Wichita. Now that it has been provided, people are complaining about the way it is being provided.

                            The reason we could get UAB to come was because of the buyout provided by the outside organizer. How does that organizer fund such a buyout? Through the generated ticket revenue. If you want quality competition, put your wallet where you mouth is.
                            In 07-08, UAB was a "one and done" at the Chuck (although surprisingly, I'll admit). Now they're an "additional purchase ticket" at IBA. Personally, I'd preferred a home and home and believe that since we were able to get them with this deal, we could have also had the h/h.
                            Here is a quote from the Eagle story on this:

                            Monday's announcement of the Nov. 25 game against Alabama-Birmingham is proof. The game, organized and promoted by Russ Potts Productions, gives WSU a deal it couldn't make for a game at Koch Arena.

                            http://www.kansas.com/2011/07/19/193...ylink=misearch
                            Furthermore, no one has answered the fundamental question I asked earlier:

                            Originally posted by The Mad Hatter
                            An outside organizer comes to WSU with an offer that:

                            1. Gives WSU a large buyout
                            2. Allows WSU to play in Wichita
                            3. Gets WSU a high quality RPI opponent in UAB

                            Are you telling me that you want Sexton to turn down that offer?
                            Since WSU is getting a buy-out for this game, it is no different from taking a buy-out to go play somewhere halfway across the country, except the added bonus of being convenient to attend for WSU fans.

                            If you complain about this game, why not complain about taking a buy-out in Syracuse or playing the third game in the LSU series in Louisiana? WSU received a buy-out for both of those games and WSU could purchase tickets to them if they so desired. How is it being convenient to attend a buy-out game a worse situation than a buy-out game half-way across the country?
                            "Cotton scared me - I left him alone." - B4MSU (Bear Nation poster) in reference to heckling players

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                            • #59
                              Seems like the market will sort this out, no? Too expensive and folks won't go. Of course the administration could intervene and demand lower ticket prices, artificially inflating demand. Pricing is a tricky business.
                              Wichita State, home of the All-Americans.

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                              • #60
                                lame, I rolled up to IBA 3 hours before tip off, paid 19 dollars and got seats like 4 rows from the floor.

                                Don't even ask me how
                                The mountains are calling, and I must go.

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