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  • #466
    Originally posted by WheatShock View Post
    I would love to see KU finally get what they deserve, but I still don't have any confidence that anything substantial will actually happen. So far it sounds like KU plans to follow the example set by UNC with the fake classes and fight it until the NCAA gives up.
    This isn't comparable to UNC though. UNC got off by fighting that National College ATHLETICS Association doesn't have any jurisdiction to define what their curriculum is and since the classes were available to all students not just Athletes, it falls outside of their control.

    KU directing payments only to players to get their commitment isn't even in the same ballpark as UNC. This is directly in the NCAA control.
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    • #467
      LJ World language in the lede is laughable. KU "came under attack" by the NCAA. Poor innocent babies. Minding their own business when the NCAA breaks in and assaults them.
      “The rebellion on the populist right against the results of the 2020 election was partly a cynical, knowing effort by political operators and their hype men in the media to steal an election or at least get rich trying. But it was also the tragic consequence of the informational malnourishment so badly afflicting the nation. ... Americans gorge themselves daily on empty informational calories, indulging their sugar fixes of self-affirming half-truths and even outright lies.'”

      ― Chris Stirewalt
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      • #468
        Originally posted by Dan View Post
        KU has 90 days to formulate a response. From what I gather, their primary defense is that the Addidas reps acted on their own and are not considered boosters or agents of KU, per the definitions provided by the NCAA.
        Except in the trial, KU identified one as a booster. And Self is caught texting a booster to get a recruit ...
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        • Dan
          #468.1
          Dan commented
          September 24, 2019, 11:47 AM
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          they're grasping at straws. I don't know how the NCAA identifies and agent or a booster, but common sense says if someone is acting on your behalf and is being directed by you they are your agent, whether you have a formal contract or not.
      • #469
        I'm all for hitting KU, but not being able to investigate Duke, UNC, and UK for the crap they pull (which, if we're being honest, probably makes what KU does seem like nothing) is dumb.
        "In God we trust, all others must bring data." - W. Edwards Deming

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        • #470
          Originally posted by Shockm View Post
          Self's defense. You can't prove that we knew without a doubt. "Gassnola said as a witness that the KU coaches didn't know he (shoe company) paid the players but they did tell us that we needed to get to work and talk them into changing their minds and coming to KU."

          Wink, Wink. Wink.

          :)



          They don't have to prove without a doubt though .. this isn't a criminal case ...

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          • #471
            The powerful always slide in politics and sports. They will promise to do better in the future and the past will be ignored.
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            • shockrah
              #471.1
              shockrah commented
              September 24, 2019, 08:07 PM
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              "We'll do better! We promise to double our paid recruits within the 2 year penalty phase!"
          • #472
            Originally posted by Kel Varnsen View Post
            I'm all for hitting KU, but not being able to investigate Duke, UNC, and UK for the crap they pull (which, if we're being honest, probably makes what KU does seem like nothing) is dumb.
            Were they implicated in the FBI sting?

            No offense Kel, but, "seem like nothing?"

            Those chickenhawk players have been running roughshod all over Lawrence for the last 10+ years. The ncaa is just now getting to a lack of institutional control? We've heard of no such stories coming out of chapel hill or lexington. And yes, we're aware of the academic fraud. Does ku not have academic fraud on campus?

            But the Rug deserves some credit for dumping L. vick at about the same time all of this was blowing up. Good pr move. But alas...
            Last edited by ShockingButTrue; September 24, 2019, 11:20 AM.

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            • Dan
              #472.1
              Dan commented
              September 24, 2019, 11:50 AM
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              keep in mind that the NCAA only named 2 players. I'm sure the actual list of infractions is much longer, there's just no concrete proof.
            • ShockingButTrue
              #472.2
              ShockingButTrue commented
              September 24, 2019, 11:57 AM
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              "were they implicated?" meaning unc or kentucky, which they weren't, that I know of...
          • #473
            "It's amazing to watch Ron slide into that open area, Fred will find him and it's straight cash homie."--HCGM
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            • #474
              Will you guys shut up ... Bill Self is simply a world class recruiter and Kansas is so vaunted that all recruits are dying to go there. Bribes aren't necessary to land recruits and Adidas was unnecessarily handing recruits cash that Kansas wasn't aware of.

              By the way, obstructing a criminal investigation is .. well .. criminal. But using a barrage of lawyers to obstruct an NCAA investigation is perfectly legal and just solid use of Kansas taxpayer money.
              Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!
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              • Kung Wu
                #474.3
                Kung Wu commented
                September 24, 2019, 12:33 PM
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                kcshocker11, forgive me for not being interested enough to click your link. It's not you, it's them.
              • Stickboy46
                #474.4
                Stickboy46 commented
                September 24, 2019, 02:16 PM
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                kcshocker11 .... oh my, that is comedy gold. Screaming about tyranny when they got caught cheating. It's seriously a giant group of toddlers.
              • Kung Wu
                #474.5
                Kung Wu commented
                September 25, 2019, 03:10 PM
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                Okay, okay ... now I have to click on it ...
            • #475
              Originally posted by Kel Varnsen View Post
              I'm all for hitting KU, but not being able to investigate Duke, UNC, and UK for the crap they pull (which, if we're being honest, probably makes what KU does seem like nothing) is dumb.
              Duke, UNC and UK are all Nike. No one from Nike got caught by the FBI. The NCAA can't investigate private companies, they can't even investigate their own schools. They don't have subpoena power. They can literally tell the NCAA no when they ask to look into stuff. You can't do that to the FBI. Adidas just happened to get caught by the FBI for criminal charges. That's why KU and likely a couple others are in trouble. KU was the big dog for Adidas.

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              • #476
                Le Batard has been hammering KU and Self this morning on his show. Time for the "company men" talking heads at ESPN to come to Self's defense!

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                • #477
                  The only Phog coming out of Lawrence these days is the brown one caused by KU fans shitting their pants.
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                  • #478
                    Any objection to me merging this thread with the "https://shockernet.net/forum/wichita-state-athletics/wichita-state-men-s-basketball/1129383-new-schools-named-in-fbi-investigation"?
                    Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!
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                    • Kung Wu
                      #478.1
                      Kung Wu commented
                      September 24, 2019, 01:31 PM
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                      Done.
                  • #479
                    You have KU friends?

                    Wah waahhh

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                    • #480
                      No objections from me.

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