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    Some AP Poll Numbers Against Top 1 & 2 Tiers

    *** If this has been posted elsewhere...please feel free to pull it. ***

    There are only 6 other teams in the TOP-25 this week that have played MORE Tier 1 and Tier 2 Games than Wichita St. so far this season.

    AP POLL # 3 Villanova -18 Games
    AP POLL # 4 Xavier - 19 Games
    AP POLL # 8 Bubble U - 21 Games
    AP POLL # 10 North Carolina - 18 Games
    AP POLL # 19 Tennessee - 17 Games
    AP POLL # 21 West Virginia - 18 Games
    AP POLL # 13 Wichita St. - 16 Games

    There are only 4 teams in the Top-25 this week that have a better WINNING PERCENTAGE against the TOP TIER 1 & 2 teams than Wichita St.

    AP POLL # 1 Virginia WINNING % .857 Record Against Top 1 & 2 Tier Teams - 12-2
    AP POLL # 3 Villanova WINNING % .853 Record Against Top 1 & 2 Tier Teams - 15-3
    AP POLL # 4 Xavier WINNING % .789 Record Against Top 1 & 2 Tier Teams - 15-4
    AP POLL # 8 Bubble U WINNING % .761 Record Against Top 1 & 2 Tier Teams - 16-5
    AP POLL # 13 Wichita St. WINNING % .750 Record Against Top 1 & 2 Tier Teams - 12-4
    FINAL FOURS:
    1965, 2013

    NCAA Tournament:
    1964, 1965, 1976, 1981, 1985, 1987, 1988, 2006, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2021

    NIT Champs - 1 (2011)

    AP Poll History of Wichita St:
    Number of Times Ranked: 157
    Number of Times Ranked #1: 1
    Number of Times Top 5: 32 (Most Recent - 2017)
    Number of Times Top 10: 73 (Most Recent - 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017)

    Highest Recent AP Ranking:
    #3 - Dec. 2017
    #2 ~ March 2014

    Highest Recent Coaches Poll Ranking:
    #2 ~ March 2014
    Finished 2013 Season #4
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    Originally posted by AZ Shocker View Post
    *** If this has been posted elsewhere...please feel free to pull it. ***

    There are only 6 other teams in the TOP-25 this week that have played MORE Tier 1 and Tier 2 Games than Wichita St. so far this season.

    AP POLL # 3 Villanova -18 Games
    AP POLL # 4 Xavier - 19 Games
    AP POLL # 8 Bubble U - 21 Games
    AP POLL # 10 North Carolina - 18 Games
    AP POLL # 19 Tennessee - 17 Games
    AP POLL # 21 West Virginia - 18 Games
    AP POLL # 13 Wichita St. - 16 Games

    There are only 4 teams in the Top-25 this week that have a better WINNING PERCENTAGE against the TOP TIER 1 & 2 teams than Wichita St.

    AP POLL # 1 Virginia WINNING % .857 Record Against Top 1 & 2 Tier Teams - 12-2
    AP POLL # 3 Villanova WINNING % .853 Record Against Top 1 & 2 Tier Teams - 15-3
    AP POLL # 4 Xavier WINNING % .789 Record Against Top 1 & 2 Tier Teams - 15-4
    AP POLL # 8 Bubble U WINNING % .761 Record Against Top 1 & 2 Tier Teams - 16-5
    AP POLL # 13 Wichita St. WINNING % .750 Record Against Top 1 & 2 Tier Teams - 12-4
    Bubble U, Villanova, and Xavier ... I've got my EYE on YOU.
    Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!
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      Yeah, it has been just terrible moving to the American. Just awful having all these Tier 1 and 2 games and winning most of them.
      Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss
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      • #4
        Just curious...is it cherry picking to limp the tier 1 and 2 games together, or is this a metric?
        Livin the dream
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        • #5
          Originally posted by wufan View Post
          Just curious...is it cherry picking to limp the tier 1 and 2 games together, or is this a metric?
          It was brought up several times in the committees justifications when they did their top 16 a week or two ago. With that said there always tend to be several “metrics” they use to justify putting the teams in they want to put in.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by wufan View Post
            Just curious...is it cherry picking to limp the tier 1 and 2 games together
            Kind of. But it certainly makes Duke look good. Hey...if it makes them look better and the talking heads wanna use it...why not use it for everyone (including us)??? . I mean heck...they got 5 losses too but are sitting at #5 in the country right now and likely to get a 1 or 2 seed..
            FINAL FOURS:
            1965, 2013

            NCAA Tournament:
            1964, 1965, 1976, 1981, 1985, 1987, 1988, 2006, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2021

            NIT Champs - 1 (2011)

            AP Poll History of Wichita St:
            Number of Times Ranked: 157
            Number of Times Ranked #1: 1
            Number of Times Top 5: 32 (Most Recent - 2017)
            Number of Times Top 10: 73 (Most Recent - 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017)

            Highest Recent AP Ranking:
            #3 - Dec. 2017
            #2 ~ March 2014

            Highest Recent Coaches Poll Ranking:
            #2 ~ March 2014
            Finished 2013 Season #4

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            • #7
              We still have 2 tier 1 (Cincy and UCF) and 1 tier two ( SMU) opportunities remaining before the AAC tourney too
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              • #8
                Originally posted by ShockBand View Post
                Yeah, it has been just terrible moving to the American. Just awful having all these Tier 1 and 2 games and winning most of them.
                Having conference games that can actually help your NCAA seeding is a wonderful thing.
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                • pogo
                  #8.1
                  pogo commented
                  February 20, 2018, 10:53 AM
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                  Amazing what a difference a year can make...also a new conference didn't hurt
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