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    I always get a little uneasy (or should I say skeptical) going into this time of year because the usual suspects seem to always grab all the 1 and 2 seeds no matter how many losses they have during the season. It's like they simply get a pass due to "name recognition" and I suppose ummm-hmmm TV ratings. But for my peace of mind...I like to do my due diligence in chasing down the NCAA's reasoning for awarding seeds. Obviously...this is Jamar Howard 4 President territory and expertise as he is awesome at explaining all this and perhaps he is formulating a post as we speak. Most of the time...the media "experts" don't make sense to me as it seems slightly propaganda-ish. With that said...and reading Jeff Borzello's quote from a couple hours ago got me thinking..."oh boy...here we go again".

    Kansas being No. 6 overall is a clear sign that quadrants are going to be a huge factor this season. Jayhawks are tied for the most Quadrant 1 wins and Quadrant 1 + 2 wins.
    Jeff Borzello, ESPN Staff Writer

    http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=2...137135613988-4


    With that said....
    Does this revelation help Wichita St. this year as far as seeding? Or does it hurt Wichita St. as far as seeding?

    I would think it would help us due to a stronger schedule and such....but...try as I may I can not find a site that shows all Div. I teams that rank "quadrant wins and losses"

    Anybody know of such a site? There must be one out there. And/or anybody know what our record is in regards to these "quadrants"?

    I like that word "quadrants"
    Last edited by AZ Shocker; February 11, 2018, 02:38 PM.
    FINAL FOURS:
    1965, 2013

    NCAA Tournament:
    1964, 1965, 1976, 1981, 1985, 1987, 1988, 2006, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2021

    NIT Champs - 1 (2011)

    AP Poll History of Wichita St:
    Number of Times Ranked: 157
    Number of Times Ranked #1: 1
    Number of Times Top 5: 32 (Most Recent - 2017)
    Number of Times Top 10: 73 (Most Recent - 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017)

    Highest Recent AP Ranking:
    #3 - Dec. 2017
    #2 ~ March 2014

    Highest Recent Coaches Poll Ranking:
    #2 ~ March 2014
    Finished 2013 Season #4

  • #2
    2018 College Basketball Wichita State Shockers Clubhouse: team schedule and results, today’s scores, RPI (live), record, conference record, post season record, strength of schedule, streaks and statistics.

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    • #3
      Beautiful - thank ya shoxtop
      FINAL FOURS:
      1965, 2013

      NCAA Tournament:
      1964, 1965, 1976, 1981, 1985, 1987, 1988, 2006, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2021

      NIT Champs - 1 (2011)

      AP Poll History of Wichita St:
      Number of Times Ranked: 157
      Number of Times Ranked #1: 1
      Number of Times Top 5: 32 (Most Recent - 2017)
      Number of Times Top 10: 73 (Most Recent - 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017)

      Highest Recent AP Ranking:
      #3 - Dec. 2017
      #2 ~ March 2014

      Highest Recent Coaches Poll Ranking:
      #2 ~ March 2014
      Finished 2013 Season #4

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      • #4
        Someone else provided this link the other day as well. It has all of the actual sheets the committee will use in pdf form. So you have to scroll to find what you’re looking for (no links) but it’s all in one place.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by AZ Shocker View Post
          Does this revelation help Wichita St. this year as far as seeding? Or does it hurt Wichita St. as far as seeding?
          "
          There are currently 11 teams with 10 or more Quadrant 1+2 wins.
          WSU has 9 such wins with a chance for 10th on Sunday.

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          • ShockBand
            ShockBand commented
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            Temple would have to do some work over their last handful of games to make a Thursday victory be a Q1 win. But they certainly are capable.

          • Steeleshocker
            Steeleshocker commented
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            We are adding Q1 and Q2, and the Temple game would classify as Q2

          • Jamar Howard 4 President
            Jamar Howard 4 President commented
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            Correct. In my mind, I was thinking "home, top 30 = Q1" and totally spaced that I was talking Q1+2, which goes up to 75 for home games.

            So yes, opportunity for 2 more such wins this week.

        • #6
          For our last 6 games we have 1 group 3 (Tulane H) 1 group 2 (Temple home), and 4 group 1 (Cincinnati h/a, SMU and UCF away) games.
          Livin the dream

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          • #7
            The next 3 weeks contain more opportunities for quality wins than the entire 18 game MVC season the past couple seasons.

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            • #8
              Originally posted by Jamar Howard 4 President View Post
              The next 3 weeks contain more opportunities for quality wins than the entire 18 game MVC season the past couple seasons.
              This can not be overstated enough. This alone proves that whoever says moving to the AAC from the MVC was a bad move for us is full of hot air.

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              • pogo
                pogo commented
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                LOC has an rpi of 51 this week. I believe the only other mvc teams in the top 100 are SIU IsuR red. So yeah a much better conference

            • #9
              Moving to the AAC has been the best for us and the whole conference as a whole. In non conference from now on expect to play a whole lot of good teams for sure.

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              • #10
                Am I hearing correctly that our record is now 12-4 against the Tier 1 and Tier 2 Quadrants????
                FINAL FOURS:
                1965, 2013

                NCAA Tournament:
                1964, 1965, 1976, 1981, 1985, 1987, 1988, 2006, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2021

                NIT Champs - 1 (2011)

                AP Poll History of Wichita St:
                Number of Times Ranked: 157
                Number of Times Ranked #1: 1
                Number of Times Top 5: 32 (Most Recent - 2017)
                Number of Times Top 10: 73 (Most Recent - 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017)

                Highest Recent AP Ranking:
                #3 - Dec. 2017
                #2 ~ March 2014

                Highest Recent Coaches Poll Ranking:
                #2 ~ March 2014
                Finished 2013 Season #4

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                • Cdizzle
                  Cdizzle commented
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                  Yes. Kindof snuck up on everyone that wrote off both us and our schedule 2 weeks ago.

                  For reference, Duke, a team that everyone is sure is a 1 or 2 seed is 10-5 vs Q1 and Q2.

              • #11
                WSU quadrants look like this:

                Q1 3-2
                Q2 9-2
                Q3 5-1
                Q4 5-0

                Q1 is alright, but no elite. The home loss to Temple hurts. Out of the Top 20 RpI (6 teams have 3 or less wins)
                Q2 looks good, but out of the top 20 rpi, only 2 other teams have 2 losses (Purdue and Texas Tech)
                Q3 The stain is the home loss to SMU (6 teams in the top 20 have 1 or more losses).
                Q4 Is good because there is not that many games and have no losses.

                So WSU seems to be in position for at least 4-5 seed. Ceiling at 3 if they take care of business in league and beat Cincy, and have a strong finish in AAC tournament.

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                • 1972Shocker
                  1972Shocker commented
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                  Home loss to Temple?

                • SB Shock
                  SB Shock commented
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                  I miss spoke, meant to say loss to Temple on their home floor which would have been a Q1 Win.
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