Gregg Marshall Show - 01/22/18

[shocker43]

Landry
Conner
Reaves
Mcduffie
Shaq

Letting Mcduffie get in the game early might help him get into an offensive flow. ZB and RK aren't outside threats so opponents can clog the lane which makes it hard for any of our guards to drive. Also makes it easier for Shaq to get 1v1 in the post because guys can't help off of anyone in the lineup.

[proshox]

Winner! I like this line up. We have good subs available while keeping to the concept of:

three ball handlers/shooters

An active four

back up centers.

[Shaqness]

1. Kelly
2. Morris
3. Nurger
4. Willis.
5. MeatHead

This lineup really spaces the floor, as all three can really shoot well beyond the arc. Their God-Given lateral quickness will help improve the defense. All known to be incredibly good ball-handlers. NC for sure.

[FadedCrown]

1. Kelly
2. Morris
3. Nurger
4. Willis.
5. MeatHead

This lineup really spaces the floor, as all three can really shoot well beyond the arc. Their God-Given lateral quickness will help improve the defense. All known to be incredibly good ball-handlers. NC for sure.

I'd prefer

1. SHJ
2. Malone
3. Keyser
4. Reaves
5. Midtgaard

[shock]

Shaqness was typing in sarcasm font

[FadedCrown]

shock And so was I

[shock]

SJH threw me off

[ShockerPrez]

I dont care who the lineup is, but we need to run something that lets Shamet loose.

We may have a lot of weapons, but sometimes you need to fight with your most reliable weapon first and foremost.

You cant tell me that Shamet isnt as good as anyone else in this conference. And i get the team, team team mantra and all, but he should be featured.

[ShockAzs]

How about:

Shamet
Reaves
Frankamp
McDuffie
Shaq

Willis subs for Shaq first, then Nurger,
Brown and Kelly for McDuffie
Shamet Reaves and Frankamp get majority of minutes, they can handle it. Sprinkle in some SHJ and Keyser for spot minutes.

[Shocktheheck]

This was my guess at changes

[Shaqness]

I dont care who the lineup is, but we need to run something that lets Shamet loose.

We may have a lot of weapons, but sometimes you need to fight with your most reliable weapon first and foremost.

You cant tell me that Shamet isnt as good as anyone else in this conference. And i get the team, team team mantra and all, but he should be featured.

You keep posting this. Shamet has every green light he wants. He routinely calls his own screen and then just hunts the three ball. You wanna see LS get going? Call him up and tell him he's got to do more than call high-ball screens for jump shots. He's missing the drive part of his game, and that is his fault. He's also abondon his floater game. The kid just has no interest in playing beyond the three point arc.


He plays like cap and never gets yanked for it. It's his world out there, and he's not taking advantage.

[Shaqness]

So far every time we talk lineups, there is someone who incorrectly leaves out RK. Every single time

[ShockCrazy]

You keep posting this. Shamet has every green light he wants. He routinely calls his own screen and then just hunts the three ball. You wanna see LS get going? Call him up and tell him he's got to do more than call high-ball screens for jump shots. He's missing the drive part of his game, and that is his fault. He's also abondon his floater game. The kid just has no interest in playing beyond the three point arc.


He plays like cap and never gets yanked for it. It's his world out there, and he's not taking advantage.

I'd like to point out you are wrong. He shoots 3's at a lower rate than he did last year 56.5% this year vs 57.3% last year. He's also getting to the line a better rate than last year, which is also an indicator of being more aggressive .321 FTA/FGA this year versus .301 last. Also made me check something, Shaq is shying away from contact this year a lot it seems: .400 career FTR, this year .295.

[Shaqness]

I'd like to point out you are wrong. He shoots 3's at a lower rate than he did last year 56.5% this year vs 57.3% last year. He's also getting to the line a better rate than last year, which is also an indicator of being more aggressive .321 FTA/FGA this year versus .301 last. Also made me check something, Shaq is shying away from contact this year a lot it seems: .400 career FTR, this year .295.

I'm not talking about his non-conference creampuff games? You got stats on his conference play, or against >100 teams? What site r u using btw?

[WuDrWu]

One of the fine posters on this board used to breakdown the combinations of on the court groups and list their +/- after each game. That was intriguing information I thought.

[Shaqness]

I'd like to point out you are wrong. He shoots 3's at a lower rate than he did last year 56.5% this year vs 57.3% last year. He's also getting to the line a better rate than last year, which is also an indicator of being more aggressive .321 FTA/FGA this year versus .301 last. Also made me check something, Shaq is shying away from contact this year a lot it seems: .400 career FTR, this year .295.

I'd also like to ask what specifically I am wrong about?

Him shooting more/less threes? I said hunting his shot, not specifically shooting. He often plays hot potato if he can't get a 3 from a screen. FInd me those stats and I'll be impressed.
His driving less/more? FTA isn't the best measure for his driving rates.

[ShockCrazy]

FTA is the best measure we have. Jumpshots get fouled at a lower rate than drives/post ups. So a higher FTA/FGA means the player is generally going towards or closer to the basket.

[ShockCrazy]

I'm not talking about his non-conference creampuff games? You got stats on his conference play, or against >100 teams? What site r u using btw?

sports-reference.com conference play he is shooting more from 3, but analyzing smaller sample sizes runs into many issues like context. For instance he shot 25 3's over our last 3 games, but we also trailed most of 2 of those by pretty decent margins, so shooting more from 3 follows. He was also still effective hitting 40% over those games, which is still more efficient than he is from 2.

[Shaqness]

sports-reference.com conference play he is shooting more from 3, but analyzing smaller sample sizes runs into many issues like context. For instance he shot 25 3's over our last 3 games, but we also trailed most of 2 of those by pretty decent margins, so shooting more from 3 follows. He was also still effective hitting 40% over those games, which is still more efficient than he is from 2.

Doesn't make it okay for him to avoid the paint as an NBA guard to "needs to be let loose". He's been let loose, he's just shooting 3's right now. He also is being really sloppy and careless with the ball. If all Shamet wants to do is shoot 3's, then start CF as PG, and move LS to the damn 2. Then we will have a PG who takes care of the ball, and drives to the hoop.

[ShockCrazy]

Landry has been turning it over a bit more lately, but saying Connor is in any way the solution to driving to the hoop is silly(and I'm a big Connor fan). He takes twos at a lower rate than Landry, has a lower assist rate, and his career FTR is sub .15. Let's just say while Connor can do all the things, he is primarily a shooter. It's what he's best at and how he's best utilized.

[Dan]

Here are changes I'd like to see:

- Lineups with Landry playing the 2 or 3 and Austin at the point (not exclusively, but see how it works out in spurts)
- MM at the 4 more, he's just more effective under the basket than he is on the wing. He can be a good stretch 4.
- Less Willis in the post, his shuffle travels are driving me nuts. The less he has to post up, the better. He's a better 4 than 5, IMO.
- Less ZB in the game. Between Landry, Austin and Markis, we can handle 75% of the 3 minutes. Have Zach come in when there's a clear mismatch and he can take advantage of a weaker player. Putting him on the star player is not working unless our goal is to let the star get his points.

[pie n eye]

Agree with most of this except #2 slightly. I feel like Willis can be unstoppable when he posts. Less so when he stands on the 3 pt line and fires threes after one pass. He’s a solid midrange shooter when he shows discretion. I think he’s one of the guys who needs to just slow down and he’ll be fine.

[Dan]

Pie - I agree about Willis. He's a good 4 when he's playing down low, when he's camped out looking for 3s he does us no good whatsoever. I prefer him running the baseline than being in the lane though.

[im4wsu]

You also spend time criticizing other users.

He might not know that because he's b;locked himself.