Gregg Marshall Show - 01/22/18

[Shockm]

Listen...........about the 27 minute mark......

I listened to the entire interview. Any true Shocker fan would not try to create drama for Coach that isn't warranted. I've listened to his show when he has created drama and this show wasn't it. Now I do know a few pre-pubescent middle school girls who enjoy drama and would try to create some. Come to think of it, they may just be Shockernet members.

[another shocker]

yep. coach said it was the usual thing that happens every year type scenario.

[Dave Stalwart]

Biologically I’m a dude but who is to say that I don’t identify as a middle school girl who loves drama? This is 2018

[Shaqness]

Man this forum really does prefer to spend its time criticizing other posters, and going on and on about how stupid peoples ideas are. Meanwhile, I haven't had any luck with SN being able to help explain Gregg Marshall's offense. That's pretty lame in my opinion. Go ahead bicker over rankings and whether or not coach sounded a certain way on his show. Or let's just go back to bashing KU or pretending every new poster is a closet KU troll. That should help us feel better about playing poor defense and not knowing what is happening on offense.

I've had to block many long time posters because they prefer to insult people and bicker, rather than discuss the Shocks. That's pretty telling.

Anywho.

[FadedCrown]

Man this forum really does prefer to spend its time criticizing other posters, and going on and on about how stupid peoples ideas are. Meanwhile, I haven't had any luck with SN being able to help explain Gregg Marshall's offense. That's pretty lame in my opinion. Go ahead bicker over rankings and whether or not coach sounded a certain way on his show. Or let's just go back to bashing KU or pretending every new poster is a closet KU troll. That should help us feel better about playing poor defense and not knowing what is happening on offense.

I've had to block many long time posters because they prefer to insult people and bicker, rather than discuss the Shocks. That's pretty telling.

Anywho.

You also spend time criticizing other users.

[asiseeit]

I'll repeat myself. If your going to play a defensive specialist (ZB) along with another defender
and rebound guy (RK) at the same time something will eventually give on the offenseive side of
the court. Teams have now learned that ZB and RK can't hurt them from the perimeter and are
sagging back deeper to either help out in the paint or double team. I think we are seeing a lot
of both. One guy helps out in the paint and another guy is used to double team - usually LS
which is the engine we need to run the offense. Have to pick your poison. Strong defense with
an offense opponents are figuring out how to slow down OR a strong offense but weaker
defense. What we need is for MM to start playing better offensively and for AR to play more at
the small forward. Having CF on one wing and AR on the other stretches/balances the court
more. Add MM playing at the four with them and you have your best offensive configuration
without giving up too much defense.

[FadedCrown]

I'll repeat myself. If your going to play a defensive specialist (ZB) along with another defender
and rebound guy (RK) at the same time something will eventually give on the offenseive side of
the court. Teams have now learned that ZB and RK can't hurt them from the perimeter and are
sagging back deeper to either help out in the paint or double team. I think we are seeing a lot
of both. One guy helps out in the paint and another guy is used to double team - usually LS
which is the engine we need to run the offense. Have to pick your poison. Strong defense with
an offense opponents are figuring out how to slow down OR a strong offense but weaker
defense. What we need is for MM to start playing better offensively and for AR to play more at
the small forward. Having CF on one wing and AR on the other stretches/balances the court
more. Add MM playing at the four with them and you have your best offensive configuration
without giving up too much defense.

It's time for ZB to ride the pine, especially after his debacle of a game on Saturday.

[ShockerPhi]

While I’m sitting around imagining scenarios, here’s another guaranteed scenario that you might as well start planning for right now.

3-6 seeded WSU plays 11-14 seeded MVC team in 1st round.

I’m calling it right now. It’s UNI, who went 6-12 in the MVC and made a run straight from Thursday all the way to the Dance.
WSU wins by 18 after a horrible 1st half but UNI fouls everybody out midway through the 2nd half since there are real officials who don’t fall for flopping in the NCAA tourney.

oh and the MVC championship at arch madness will be UNI-Drake. Tens of fans will witness it live.

This post made me laugh because it definitely sounds very possible. The only thing I have to say is that there is no way an MVC team will be higher than a 13 seed. But if our seeding is right, I would not be shocked to see them pair us with UNI, who will win the Valley Tourney like you said.

[wsushockerdude]

It's time for ZB to ride the pine, especially after his debacle of a game on Saturday.

I agree. Show me a starting lineup of Thursday of...

1. Landry
2. Reaves
3. McDuffles
4. Rashard
5. Shaq

We act like Zach is a godsend on defense, but let's not forget that McDuffie won MVC Defensive POY as a freshman.

[proshox]

I don’t understand any lineup that features MM as a three. Puts him at a major disadvantage on both ends of the court. As a four he has the advantage.

[RussDaBus]

Duff is a very good all around player but he did not win defensive player of the year his freshman year or any other year foe that matter. He was Freshman of the Year but that doesn't make him the best defender in the conference.

[wsushockerdude]

RussDaBus is correct, sorry about that. Not sure why I thought he won that, thanks for correcting.

[BostonWu]

Love ZB but so far he's having underwhelming senior campaign

[Husker4Shockers]

The consensus starting 5 according to my wife and daughter...
1) Shamet
2) Frankamp
3) Kelly
4) Willis
5) Morris

And please, Gregg, whoever you start, leave them in the game long enough to get into a flow and rhythm!

[FadedCrown]

Did we run that lineup as our starting lineup a few times this season?

[proshox]

Modern basketball and two “centers” is a bad combination. We have been doing this a lot and the score goes the wrong way.

[WSUwatcher]

Brown has been struggling a little at times with his knee, although I haven't heard that it's still a problem. And I think he was probably trying to do too much in front of the home folks in Houston. But I agree will all who say that having two guys starting who aren't in for offense can create some problems; and it's probably a little worse when one of the two, who isn't a great shooter from beyond the arc -- one might even say the weak link among the starters -- eagerly takes the threes that opponents are willing to let him launch. That's been happening too much lately.

[FadedCrown]

If we are looking for a true offensive team, here is what KenPom's Offensive Ratings say we should play.

G - Landry Shamet
G - Connor Frankamp
G - Austin Reaves
F - Rashard Kelly
C - Rauno Nurger

[proshox]

Not my first choice, but it is better than all others listed above.

[Shaqness]

So do any of you know what offense Gregg Marshall is running? I actually would like to know. Because I didn't feel all that comfortable saying RB or ZB should play without knowing what we are running.

[Aargh]

When you find out, please tell Shaq.

[ShockCrazy]

So do any of you know what offense Gregg Marshall is running? I actually would like to know. Because I didn't feel all that comfortable saying RB or ZB should play without knowing what we are running.

Primarily we run a motion offense(mix and match of some 4 out and 3-2 motion), but we do run a few high ball screen sets(these were run much more often with Fred as PG but have and will always be a staple of our offense). I also think people have this misconception of offenses being a more rigid thing than it is. There are certainly drawn up plays, but coaching offense is more about how players are coached to breakdown and analyze defenses, and then what the players are to look for when making a drive/cut/pass.

[Shaqness]

Primarily we run a motion offense(mix and match of some 4 out and 3-2 motion), but we do run a few high ball screen sets(these were run much more often with Fred as PG but have and will always be a staple of our offense). I also think people have this misconception of offenses being a more rigid thing than it is. There are certainly drawn up plays, but coaching offense is more about how players are coached to breakdown and analyze defenses, and then what the players are to look for when making a drive/cut/pass.

Thank you for this. The only set plays I recognize are rip cuts against zones.