Amazing Stopwatch

[ICT Ragman]

WSU's itemized record against "superior" B12 conference competition in the GS era:

BU: 1-0
CU: 5-0
ISU: 21-0
KSU: 47-15
KU: 40-17
MU: 5-4
NU: 20-14
OSU: 29-24
OU: 10-10
TA&M: 0-0
TT: 17-10
UT: 3-2

Overall: 197-96

Great numbers.

[BostonWu]

Allow me to introduce our latest guest:

Glad that $hit astro turf infield that WSU still has didn't end up costing K-State the ballgame.

WSU weekend pitchers, pitch against MVC competition. K-State weekend pitchers pitch in 9-15 games per year against ranked CONFERENCE opponents in the Big 12, one of the Top 3 baseball conferences in the country

...The basic point here is that K-State plays in a conference against college baseball superpowers, the CWS apparence and national title numbers speak for themselves . . . that's 60 plus CWS apparences, 10 national titles.

...In terms of bringing up the postseason numbers, it simply reinforces the concept that the MVC is weak, and that the Big 12 is laced with college baseball giants . . . pure and simple reality, thus making it more difficult for the smaller programs to get to the top.

Winning one CWS and not having gone to one in 13 years is not a dynasty. Texas Baseball is a dynasty . . . WSU is not, WSU is a solid regional power.

Just think, you could build ECK Stadium and all of the other recent facilities upgrades at WSU, and only pay for half of what Texas spent renovating Disch-Falk Stadium. I would add that K-State has had an indoor baseball workout facility for years, and that both ku and k-state now have very nice dressing rooms and players lounges for their programs. The only real differnce is that WSU has more suites and seats. Reality also has it that Eck might be the 3 or 4th nicest on campus baseball stadium in the Big 12, and once you add in NU's Hawk's Field, probably the 5th nicest overall. Eck is easily the nicest on campus stadium in the MVC by far, again, just another huge hurdle for smaller baseball programs in the Big 12 to overcome.

Gene built his record playing in a weak conference.

:bow::bow::bow:

[BostonWu]

BTW, Dax has gone under the former name of NCCat (and a few others I can't remember) before getting booted off his own board and I have a suspicion he might also be the same GoddardCat character who used to pay us an occasional visit. If not then he's cut from the same trailer park cloth.

[RoyalShock]

Well, you know how it works here.

1. Guest doesn't wipe his feet.
2. Residents pummel him with shoes.
3. Guest attempts to throw shoes back at residents.
4. Guest gets introduced to security and is shown the door.

[ShockerFever]

BTW Dax... some stuff to chew on, for the trip back to the farm:


WSU's itemized record against "superior" B12 conference competition in the GS era:

BU: 1-0
CU: 5-0
ISU: 21-0
KSU: 47-15
KU: 40-17
MU: 5-4
NU: 20-14
OSU: 29-24
OU: 10-10
A$M: 0-0
TT: 17-10
UT: 3-2

Overall: 197-96

Yeah, that's correct. We have a winning record against 10 (or 9) out of the 12 (or 11), and a losing record against not a one.


And...

Here's at least one media outlet's opinion of our facility... you know, the one you thought would rank 5th on the B12, over in that thread on the Kitty forum:

Eck Stadium- 7th ranked baseball stadium in the country.

http://cstv.collegesports.com/bestof/category.php?cid=13

And...

Our CWS experience is so far in the past, the Omaha World Herald thought we were only the 11th most significant program in CWS history, as of a couple of years ago:

http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pg=528&u_xid=365&u_sid=1438921

And...

More fun facts and context from our insignificant school, and sport:

2007 (most recent I could find concurrent) paid attendence-

WSU Baseball- 178,801
K-State Basketball- 209,123

Mad props on the 15% attendance premium you get for your basketball over our baseball program.


And...

Clearly our program is on the decline, evidenced by the last years recruiting class:

Collegiate Baseball- #15

http://www.baseballnews.com/recruiting/recruiting_results.htm

Baseball America- #16

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/college/recruiting/2008/267018.html

Look close genius, that class would put us #2 in the B12.


Now Dax, why don't you run on back to the trailer before things get too rough around here. Perhaps you could figure out the next plan of attack in order to annoy the K-State Athletic Department to the point of actual sanctions placed on a private citizen. You don't know anybody that nutty, do you? Oh wait...

That can't be. Gene pads all of his wins against the Valley, not superior conferences like the Big 12. Your facts must be incorrect Ricky.

By the way, one record really jumps right out at ya. 47-15. lol.. seriously?

[Shocker85]

BTW Dax... some stuff to chew on, for the trip back to the farm:

WSU's itemized record against "superior" B12 conference competition in the GS era:

Ricky.

REALLY nice job compiling all that stuff. If you lifted it from somewhere else, thanks for bringing it here anyway.

Y'know, Gene/WSU might have 19,900 wins instead of 20,000 or whatever the number is if the Shox played in the B12, but this sure demonstrates that WSU would be a contender in that league.

It further illustrates that what has been accomplished at WSU over the last 30 years is no accident.

--'85.

[SHOCKvalue]

BTW Dax... some stuff to chew on, for the trip back to the farm:

WSU's itemized record against "superior" B12 conference competition in the GS era:

Ricky.

REALLY nice job compiling all that stuff. If you lifted it from somewhere else, thanks for bringing it here anyway.

Y'know, Gene/WSU might have 19,900 wins instead of 20,000 or whatever the number is if the Shox played in the B12, but this sure demonstrates that WSU would be a contender in that league.

It further illustrates that what has been accomplished at WSU over the last 30 years is no accident.

--'85.

I keep a little file doc with all kinds of stats, news, and web links. Some of it self-mined, some of it is lifted, and some of it from WSU media guides. I actually have more, and have considered creating a thread dedicated to analytical, statistical, and media stuff regarding our program, for the use of defense.

The WSU vs. B12 team-by-team breakdown was posted some seasons ago. I added it to my list and keep it updated. That's not really my handiwork.

[NCAABound]

BTW Dax... some stuff to chew on, for the trip back to the farm:

WSU's itemized record against "superior" B12 conference competition in the GS era:

Ricky.

REALLY nice job compiling all that stuff. If you lifted it from somewhere else, thanks for bringing it here anyway.

Y'know, Gene/WSU might have 19,900 wins instead of 20,000 or whatever the number is if the Shox played in the B12, but this sure demonstrates that WSU would be a contender in that league.

It further illustrates that what has been accomplished at WSU over the last 30 years is no accident.

--'85.

And it could also say that the Shox are 300-2 against the Cats, but those idiots would still claim those two wins are the most important because it shows they are just now claiming their rightful spot atop the college baseball mountain.

[tru2thaduce]

I'm really blown away bt those numbers against the big XII.Amazing.

[martymoose]

Gene's record against the Big 12 is better than any current coach in the Big 12....does that tell ya something?

I listened on the radio. It sounded like a home game for KSU, when we made a good play. We are new to actually caring about baseball. Between us and KU, things are only going to get more difficult for Shocker baseball.

Thanks for backing up my point! KSU averages less than 1000 fans per game, there were over 5,500 fans at our game the other night. So what you're saying is if about 600 or 700 KSU fans showed up and cheered, it would have sounded like a KSU home game.... Let me repeat myself, the attendance was in WSU's favor somewhere around 4 to 1 if not more. To say there were more KSU fans there is a joke.

Hell, your biggest turnout at home was against WSU and all you had was 2,416 fans...if every single one of them showed up in Wichita, you still wouldn't have outnumbered us...

Seriously, I'm really concerned about KU and KSU, just about as concerned as KU basketball is with regards to WSU and KSU...too bad KSU doesn't have a sport they are consistently good at. Oh wait, women's basketball.

[enginerd]

I'll beat you all to it... KSU Equestrian is consistently nationally ranked. So there!

[enginerd]

and another thing... Gene didn't last a day as a Big 12 coach!

[fastbow]

and another thing... Gene didn't last a day as a Big 12 coach!

This matters because........?

Gene saw he had a good thing here. Gene owns the athletic department. The man is a hero in this town. At OU, he would forever play second fiddle to the football program, and probably now be competing for third fiddle with the basketball team.

Make no mistake, Gene realized he has a good thing here. OU might be nice, but in terms of rabid fan support, Norman is no Wichita, and OU is no Wichita State.

[im4wsu]

and another thing... Gene didn't last a day as a Big 12 coach!

Couldn't stand the DEmotion!!!!

[ShockerFever]

Well I at least got some consolation tonight.

Aggie Tech U blew a 2-0 nothing lead in the 9th at home to Missouri, giving up a 3-run homer and a solo homer, losing 4-3..