How many seasons does Butler get?

[AndShock]

The fact that Todd could be a great guy, be loved by his players and the community, and be extremely successful on the field and you wouldn't like him is really telling. And obnoxious. And stupid.

[shockmonster]

Todd may turn out to be a good coach and turn the Shox around, and he may be a nice guy and have a good coaching style and have the respect of his players. My opinion won't change. I don't care to have him be the coach at WSU, and I just don't care for him in general. Has nothing to do with coaching style and it definitely has nothing to do with Gene. I am glad for what Gene accomplished here, but I don't feel that his heart really ever came back to Wichita once he accepted the OU job and then had a change of heart.

You cleared up everything. You stated facts that supported your opinions on Butler. Why don't you just come out with what exactly your agenda is and who you really wanted to get the job. This program is so hard for me to support, not because of the new coaching staff, etc. My only agenda is to see us win and I don't care who does the coaching, etc. It's fans like you who have other agendas that have moved me from being a full supporter to not really paying attention to the baseball program. I haven't been to a game in years and never listen on the radio anymore either. It's a good thing we have basketball.

[shockerfanmas]

The fact that Todd could be a great guy, be loved by his players and the community, and be extremely successful on the field and you wouldn't like him is really telling. And obnoxious. And stupid.

To each their own. Last I checked, it wasn't against the law to not be a fan of somebody just because everybody else is. I know several people that don't think much of him, so I guess all those people are obnoxious and stupid too then. Thanks for your opinion though, I always appreciate it, but I really don't care what you think. I'm a fan of WSU baseball, regardless of who the coach is, and that won't change. I support the team and that's all that matters. Have a nice night sir

[shockerfanmas]

You cleared up everything. You stated facts that supported your opinions on Butler. Why don't you just come out with what exactly your agenda is and who you really wanted to get the job. This program is so hard for me to support, not because of the new coaching staff, etc. My only agenda is to see us win and I don't care who does the coaching, etc. It's fans like you who have other agendas that have moved me from being a full supporter to not really paying attention to the baseball program. I haven't been to a game in years and never listen on the radio anymore either. It's a good thing we have basketball.

I have no agenda, and I've already made it clear who my top 2 choices were to be the new coach here. Whether you follow the baseball team anymore or not matters little to me. I still do, regardless of who the coach is. Thanks for your comments, and have a good night sir.

[AndShock]

To each their own. Last I checked, it wasn't against the law to not be a fan of somebody just because everybody else is. I know several people that don't think much of him, so I guess all those people are obnoxious and stupid too then. Thanks for your opinion though, I always appreciate it, but I really don't care what you think. I'm a fan of WSU baseball, regardless of who the coach is, and that won't change. I support the team and that's all that matters. Have a nice night sir

I do not care at all if someone doesn't think much of Todd Butler right now. He hasn't done much to earn the random fan's support. I'm not on his bandwagon yet either. But let's say he takes us to 10 CWS and is a positive member in the community while not being involved in controversy after controversy...and you and whoever else still don't think much of him, then yes that is very obnoxious and stupid.

The only things I care about in a Wichita State coach are:
1. Good representative of my university
2. Winning

Being part of a certain coaching tree or having a certain name is not on my list. I personally know people who were put off by Gregg Marshall after meeting him personally. They have their own opinions about Gregg but they are more than happy to pay for season tickets and support him however they can because they know how important he is to the university and this city. I get the feeling you would rather lose with certain guys than win with Todd Butler and that doesn't really make you a "fan" of WSU baseball, imo.

[tru2thaduce]

Every time I have met coach Butler he has been a complete gentleman and super nice.I honestly believe if you want to dislike Butler you really have to try to.For someone to say they won't care for a guy no matter what he does for Wichita State is just plain stupid.I go to every home game and will keep going next year.I will always stand by the program and support Coach Butler as he is our coach.Time will tell if coach B is a good coach but I can say that by my experience he is a good guy.More than I can say for our previous coach.

[shockerfanmas]

I do not care at all if someone doesn't think much of Todd Butler right now. He hasn't done much to earn the random fan's support. I'm not on his bandwagon yet either. But let's say he takes us to 10 CWS and is a positive member in the community while not being involved in controversy after controversy...and you and whoever else still don't think much of him, then yes that is very obnoxious and stupid.

The only things I care about in a Wichita State coach are:
1. Good representative of my university
2. Winning

Being part of a certain coaching tree or having a certain name is not on my list. I personally know people who were put off by Gregg Marshall after meeting him personally. They have their own opinions about Gregg but they are more than happy to pay for season tickets and support him however they can because they know how important he is to the university and this city. I get the feeling you would rather lose with certain guys than win with Todd Butler and that doesn't really make you a "fan" of WSU baseball, imo.

To each their own. I am most certainly a fan, and everybody on the outfield hill on Friday night will agree with me. Again, i have the right to like who I like and not like who I don't like. There's a huge difference between liking somebody and respecting somebody btw. I never said I wouldn't respect him, hell, if you yourself turn the Shox around into national contenders year in and year out I'd respect and support you. That doesn't mean I'd have to like you or think much of you though. If our lines are getting crossed here, that's fine. Maybe I'm not wording things they way I mean them to come out, but for you or anybody else to say it is obnoxious and stupid, is, imo, obnoxious and stupid. Then again, it's my opinion and that's all that matters to me. Thank you for sharing how you feel though, I'll keep yours and everybody elses thoughts in mind the next time I say I don't care for Todd Butler.

[strongisbeautiful17]

Every time I have met coach Butler he has been a complete gentleman and super nice.I honestly believe if you want to dislike Butler you really have to try to.For someone to say they won't care for a guy no matter what he does for Wichita State is just plain stupid.I go to every home game and will keep going next year.I will always stand by the program and support Coach Butler as he is our coach.Time will tell if coach B is a good coach but I can say that by my experience he is a good guy.More than I can say for our previous coach.

Interesting posts back and forth. I think Coach Butler deserves respect for being WSU's Baseball Coach, hes a nice guy to talk with, great recruiter, but in my opinion not a great teaching coach, motivator on the field and with his players behind the scenes. In order to be able to compare him with Coach Adams we would have to interview those who have left the program. I think we would find it most interesting.

[SB Shock]

Every time I have met coach Butler he has been a complete gentleman and super nice.I honestly believe if you want to dislike Butler you really have to try to.For someone to say they won't care for a guy no matter what he does for Wichita State is just plain stupid.I go to every home game and will keep going next year.I will always stand by the program and support Coach Butler as he is our coach.Time will tell if coach B is a good coach but I can say that by my experience he is a good guy.More than I can say for our previous coach.

Yeah I have only heard good things about Butler.

Now can he get it done on the field? I hope so.

Can he coach and motivate? Well if you look at what his team did over the last month - it would seem the answer is yes. They got better. The team could have quit and instead dug themselves out of the hole.

On the question of BBIQ complaints - that would be my complaint about this program for the last decade. So it maybe a generational thing instead of coaching issue.

[1972Shocker]

Interesting posts back and forth. I think Coach Butler deserves respect for being WSU's Baseball Coach, hes a nice guy to talk with, great recruiter, but in my opinion not a great teaching coach, motivator on the field and with his players behind the scenes. In order to be able to compare him with Coach Adams we would have to interview those who have left the program. I think we would find it most interesting.

How many of those that have left Jody Adam's program have you interviewed?

[Ricardo del Rio]

I smell pee pee.

[1972Shocker]

I smell pee pee.

That usually means it is time to change your Depends. :eek-new:

[WstateU]

You completely misunderstood what I meant. Not once did I say that Todd is anything like Jody. What I said is that both Todd and Jody rub me the wrong way. I never said anything about their coaching styles, nor did I say they rub everybody the wrong way. I don't care for Jody as a coach, nor do I care for Todd as a coach. Meaning I'm not fans of them being at Wichita State.

Todd may turn out to be a good coach and turn the Shox around, and he may be a nice guy and have a good coaching style and have the respect of his players. My opinion won't change. I don't care to have him be the coach at WSU, and I just don't care for him in general. Has nothing to do with coaching style and it definitely has nothing to do with Gene. I am glad for what Gene accomplished here, but I don't feel that his heart really ever came back to Wichita once he accepted the OU job and then had a change of heart.

I think his time was up at WSU years ago and he certainly didn't help his cause with some of his actions off the field. That said he is and always will be WSU baseball. Chances are wsu baseball would be non-existent without him. I most certainly didn't like this time ended here, and I have absolutely no respect for our wannabe AD because of it (as well as other things). That being said, my opinion on Todd Butler is what it is. I'm not a fan of him. Maybe he can win me over in time, but not right now

I've never been a big fan of our "wannabe AD" either, however at some point we have to give him some credit. The 'little beady-eyed man' seems to be doing something right...

http://www.goshockers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPID=2849&DB_OEM_ID=7500&ATCLID=210109017

[mr_baseball]

I've never been a big fan of our "wannabe AD" either, however at some point we have to give him some credit. The 'little beady-eyed man' seems to be doing something right...

http://www.goshockers.com/ViewArticl...CLID=210109017

Just cause he got named to a board doesn't mean he is of any worth. Just look at our government. I probably would have tripped him at the baseball on Wednesday, but my little boy was with me... ;)

[SB Shock]

From Sullentrop blog

WSU coach Todd Butler signed a seven-year contract in 2013. An administration does not fire Gene Stephenson and then give up on its choice as replacement without giving him a full chance to succeed. So if you’re wondering about Butler’s job security, you can stop.

Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/sports/college...#storylink=cpy