Apparel-Gate Final Resolution - Thursday Jan 29th

[Ed Harley]

Do we still get to play in the Valley Tourney (that we are hosting)?

[SPEShockAlum]

If it stands, Gene will fall into third place on the all-time DI list behind Mike Martin.

Still in some pretty damn good company between Garrido and Martin.

[Rosewood]

What a bunch of bullshit.

[ShockerFever]

Rank the following in order of disdain:

IRS
Prius Drivers
Congress
NCAA
CreightonFan

Damn... toughie.

Even worse if you try to rank them by order of hypocrisy.

I laughed pretty hard.

[EB 22]

Shocker baseball players improperly received discounts on non-baseball merchandise and must vacate wins.

Memphis' Derrick Rose cheated on his SAT in high school and the school had to vacate wins.

North Carolina created a fake class for its athletes to get A's and B's. Penn State essentially allowed a long time football coach to use its facilities to rape victims. Both schools get to keep their wins.

Sounds pretty fair to me.

[JJClamdip]

The NCAA is so mad at UNC for its phony classes issue it decided to vacate 70+ wins. Against Wichita State baseball, because UNC obviously stands for UNder armour Cheaters.

How can they justify taking these wins after they give them back to Penn State?

I guess a coach ass raping a few players is not nearly as bad a getting a discount on some cheap clothing made in China.

[1972Shocker]

How can they justify taking these wins after they give them back to Penn State?

I guess they have to find some wins to offset what they gave back to Paterno State to balance the scales of justice.

[XManCometh]

So Gene and the program has to vacate up to 74 wins because the players got a few shirts at a discount from UA?

Yea, that punishment fits the crime.............

I'd say the chances of that part of the punishment getting erased is about 99%. This is just the NCAA trying to show what little muscle it has left.

[Steeleshocker]

Unless the NCAA vacates the last 20 years of UNC basketball wins, there is no basis for this decision and even then the lack of competitive advantage difference between the two situations means that if only one of the two programs should vacate wins, it ought to be UNC.

Bingo. My thoughts exactly. Heck, even if we win our appeal, i expect to see the initial punishment for UNC basketball and football to be about 20 vacated seasons.

[_kai_]

Bingo. My thoughts exactly. Heck, even if we win our appeal, i expect to see the initial punishment for UNC basketball and football to be about 20 vacated seasons.

They should nuke their entire Athletic Department off the face of the Earth.

[1972Shocker]

Wichita State decides it will not appeal decision by NCAA to vacate its wins from 2012 and 2013.

http://www.goshockers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=7500&ATCLID=209896012

Disappointing but it is what it is.

[Rosewood]

I'm very disappointed that they aren't appealing. That punishes so many players and coaches that did nothing wrong.

[Kung Wu]

I'm very disappointed that they aren't appealing. That punishes so many players and coaches that did nothing wrong.

Wichita State decides it will not appeal decision by NCAA to vacate its wins from 2012 and 2013.

http://www.goshockers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=7500&ATCLID=209896012

Disappointing but it is what it is.

A bad decision by our school, IMHO. Gene and his team deserves better representation than that.

Edit: Even if you think you will lose, this is one you fight.

[1972Shocker]

A bad decision by our school, IMHO. Gene and his team deserves better representation than that.

Edit: Even if you think you will lose, this is one you fight.

Very surprising change of position. WSU seemed committed to appealing until just very recently. Plus you would think if Penn State could get their wins re-instated that the Shocks had a great shot at getting those wins re-instated. Even if they lose the appeal what have you lost?

Essentially, the bottom line is that Dr. Bardo stated he "decided that it is not in the best interest of the University to proceed with such an appeal."

To me the question is why and in what way is it not in the best interest of the University? Did something happen behind the scenes in recent days that caused this change of heart? Obviously, the relationship between Gene and WSU is icy at best. Seems like this will only make that ice a little bit thicker. I have to believe there is more to this than that they just decided that the committee acted within their authority. Some thing happened or someone got to Dr. Bardo and influenced his decision. I don't know what went on and probably will never know.

Notice that Dr. Bardo never said in his statement that he did not think they could win an appeal. He only said that the committee acted within their authority so I guess you could not appeal on the basis that the committee exceeded their authority. Not sure if that is the only basis of appeal or not. I doubt it.

[ShockerFever]

Complete bullshit.