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Originally posted by BostonWu View Post
Used to be a day when we had the state locked up. Unfortunately it's been a little while.
30 years ago (even 20), a kid like Dylan just wouldn't get the exposure he does today. There weren't multiple regional and national "showcases" nor was there the ability to share your physical attributes and abilities, much less your ability to simply upload and share videos of your accomplishments (and show only your best and never your worst).
It is an entirely different world today, and kids with talent rarely go unnoticed for any length of time. I remember getting basically lectured from a college coach when I was senior in college (I got paired with him at Braeburn) because I didn't play college golf. He was like "why didn't you play for someone?" I told him golf wasn't my favorite or best (I was dead wrong) sport. He essentially called me an idiot (dead on).
Not 3 years later, I knew a kid who had at least 3 college offers (he had maybe half my ability and a quarter of my skill) because he mailed out a dozen homemade VHS tapes. Different times and a LOT more competition for the skill that is out there.
And yes, we still need to restore greatness to this program!
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This might deserve a separate thread. I went to the Virginia-UINC CWS game yesterday. If all of the people in the concourses had been in their seats, it would looked like close to a sell-out. The stadium is as nice as any major league stadium that I've been to, and I've been to a lot.
Lots and lots and lots of activity, bars, restaurants around the stadium. It is a much better atmosphere for fans than Rosenblatt, especially outside of the stadium.
It was kind of bitter-sweet. The last time I went to the CWS was in 1996 - WSU's last appearance.
They at least did have poster/banner thing with the winner every year.
There was also a bronze back list just three people that deserved special recognition for promoting college baseball:
*Rod Dedeaux (USC)
*Skip Bertman (LSU)
*Augie Garrido (Fullerton & Texas)
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Glad to see some difficult conversations coming out.
The SEC won its first ever CWS in 1990. They wanted that pie, not a piece of it, the whole thing.
Starting next year, the SEC will have 9 teams that have won a CWS since 1990, and they have won the CWS 18 of the 32 years since (not counting COVID year where there wasn’t one)
They changed the game. Huge beautiful stadiums, Athletic Program Support, etc. We will not be allowed to have the money to keep up with them. How do we compete?
We have to create a culture separate from the “Pay for Performance”, but still need some Benjamin’s to help.
How can we make Wichita State the place kids will turn down more money to come play? I still feel if Dr. Bardo would have been able to complete his vision we would all know how to do this. As it is, we have to help our current administrators figure it out. I believe they will listen to things that make sense.
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Originally posted by Downtown Shocker Brown View PostGlad to see some difficult conversations coming out.
The SEC won its first ever CWS in 1990. They wanted that pie, not a piece of it, the whole thing.
Starting next year, the SEC will have 9 teams that have won a CWS since 1990, and they have won the CWS 18 of the 32 years since (not counting COVID year where there wasn’t one)
They changed the game. Huge beautiful stadiums, Athletic Program Support, etc. We will not be allowed to have the money to keep up with them. How do we compete?
We have to create a culture separate from the “Pay for Performance”, but still need some Benjamin’s to help.
How can we make Wichita State the place kids will turn down more money to come play? I still feel if Dr. Bardo would have been able to complete his vision we would all know how to do this. As it is, we have to help our current administrators figure it out. I believe they will listen to things that make sense.
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Originally posted by Downtown Shocker Brown View PostHow can we make Wichita State the place kids will turn down more money to come play?
IMO, it will take some kind of wholesale revamping of college athletics, at least college football and men's basketball. What that will look like I don't know but I think it will have to follow some kind of professional model being an option. Perhaps two tracks will develop. A Pro Option and a more traditional Amateur Option. Pick one. One way or the other the have nots will have to accept the reality that they simply will not be able to keep pace financially if things continue as they are.
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Originally posted by shoxlax View Post
The only way schools will compete with the SEC is to take the various members down for tampering, cooking transfer credits, corked bats and illegal juice. Prolonged legal fights coming from consortiums of colleges suing both the NCAA for not enforcing their own rules (which is tantamount to collusion when you look at the affected parties) and the schools plus NIL collectives is what has to derail the train. A few well timed injunctions pending litigation (let’s stop the Alabama-LSU game four days before kickoff) should get everyone’s attention.
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A quick thought on "Northern schools" and the CWS. I would guess weather is as good in Wichita as Lexington, KY and Charlottesville, VA. Wichita is south of both cities (latitude wise.)
If you draw a straight-line west of Knoxville, TN, it about Tulsa's latitude. I don't think that Stillwater has a weather advantage over Wichita.
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