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Hasn’t Wedges family been somewhat settled in the NW?
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Plus the calls of HOOOOOOOPER! from the fans....Comment
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I agree. From what I have heard him say on the radio he wants to be a MLB manager, but he is committed to his family at the moment.Originally posted by ShockerFever View PostComment
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Wedge is a confident leader. He also knows how to put together a team. And he has unlimited connections in the MLB.
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Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Had he fired him last year it would qualify as competent. This year it was late. He really can't do anything to redeem himself at this point. Tradition is what is bringing our next head coach to Shocker Nation. Buttlip needs to just stay the **** out of the way and let the adults turn this busted ship around.Originally posted by ShockerFever View Post
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If the only reason Butler stayed this long was because the move to the AAC cost WSU too much and they couldn't afford to fire Butler, then given a choice I'd have rather stayed in the Valley. Especially since valley officiating in baseball and basketball is 10 times better than I've seen in the AAC. As a hardcore baseball fan, Getting rid of Butler was more important to me.
If ADDB really thought we were improving....well... either way he is as dumb and incompetent as Sexton is.
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I’m psyched. I’ll be happy with any of the three guys mentioned. Hoping this is already a done deal with one of them so we can roll right into the new regime. Go Shocks!“The rebellion on the populist right against the results of the 2020 election was partly a cynical, knowing effort by political operators and their hype men in the media to steal an election or at least get rich trying. But it was also the tragic consequence of the informational malnourishment so badly afflicting the nation. ... Americans gorge themselves daily on empty informational calories, indulging their sugar fixes of self-affirming half-truths and even outright lies.'”
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Good point.Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded View Post
Boatright has a lot to make up for in running this athletic department. I’m not sure how many people are gonna be watching games on the hill with new policies in place. Tickets are still overpriced for the current product. Concessions are full out extortion. So there’s still lots of things working against attendance issues at baseball games. A good first step was made but there is more that needs to be amended other than a coaching change. Although that is asking way too much.Deuces Valley.
... No really, deuces.
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I’ve said it for the last three years...
Best option happens to also be the best salad and the worst club in my bag.
Wedge me.Comment
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Jesus God BoatRaced is a feckless amateur.
The job of an AD is not to make diving catches and bare-handed double plays; his job is to have all contingencies in place at all times a la The Inimitable Jim Schaus and his famous constantly updated coaching binder.
The moment Dr. Bardo and Marshall decided that the AAC would be a good thing for WSU, they went and startled BabyRight from his mid-afternoon nappy asking him to make a few calls.
A real AD would be point man on the move keeping very strong contact with the primary boosters making everything PERFECTLY clear that emergency funds will likely have to be raised in the event that the presently circling Mini-B would need to be flushed. Instead we hear rumors that Butler was kept on because we didn't have a few 100k to buy him out. That's 100% on Da Boat's back. A ****ing throwaway year while one of the greatest college baseball coaches in history spends his afternoon picking ripe tomatoes.
Jesus God indeed. *facepalm*
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My son-in-law played with Hooper at WSU and according to my daughter, Kevin's wife and kids live in Wichita - they have never left. Certainly a factor, potentially . . .Originally posted by SHOCKvalue View PostIf you take the high road, you won't find much traffic there . . .Comment
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I don't have anybody whispering in my ear, and I'm not connected to the Athletic Department in ways that would give me any info on the baseball coaching situation, so ignore this if you're only looking for information that supports your pre-conceived and strongly held beliefs.
I thin Boatright has had this worked out for quite some time. Steele left at a strange time. Seems to indicate he knew something was coming. Pelfrey took the job Steele left. Pelfrey had to know he was enlisting on a ship that was sinking. Why would somebody take a job for just one year - especially one where the pitching staff was WSU's staff.
The only way the Steele move makes sense is if the coaching staff knew at that time that Butler was gone once the season ended. The only way the Pelfrey move makes sense is if Boatright already had something in the works with a Stephenson legacy who was willing to hire Pelfrey as his pitching coach.
I'm not a Boatright fan - pretty much neutral. If a Stephenson legacy is hired and if Pelfrey ramains on the staff as the pitching coach, then it looks like Boatright was working on replacing Butler for quite a while and had the staff more or less in place before the start of the season. Just because Boatright did it quietly without publicity is not a negative about Boatright's leadership of the department.
Canning Butler with 3 or 4 years on his contract would have required a payout in the $1 mill range. That's ludicrous for a baseball coach. With two years left, WSU had just dropped $2.5 nill to join the AAC. That was not a good time to drop another $600K on firing a baseball coach.The future's so bright - I gotta wear shades.
We like to cut down nets and get sized for championship rings.Comment
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Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!Comment
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I do not think you'd find a person in all of Wichita that would have kept Butler on after this year. I mean any person of any foresight, with even a cursory knowledge of Shocker baseball and a copy of the season results of the last 6 years, would immediately know that he has to go. The only person that would have extended Butler's employment to year 7 would have had to have been a ChicKUn/Manure saboteur straight out of a spy novel. So it's established that absolutely ZERO executive skill/talent/authority would have been required to have ended Butler's career after this year. So what are we paying BongRight for? To bark at the assistant director of operations when he forgets to put up the volleyball net? I'm certain Lambo will do that for free.Originally posted by Aargh View Post
Anybody close to the program knows that Butler's final year was last year. Player's parents were told at the beginning of this year that rumor rumor rumor rumor rumor. Any athletic director employed during a period when the second highest revenue sport at the school has to have a THROWAWAY year due to the fact that the program is so cash poor that they can't finance the remaining $600k OVER TWO YEARS while hiring a new coach - immediately reinvigorating the program and taking it back into the black - should be fired immediately on the basis of dereliction of duty.
Again, that's $600k over two years ($25K/mo), not one lump sum. This is paid out just like his normal salary if he'd still be working at WSU. Do you think the hiring of a Wedge or Hooper would bring enough ticket revenue in to cover a paltry $300k per year? Do you think a university the size of Wichita State with an athletic budget of $30 million should be able to swing a loan for a couple hundred thousand or 2% of the annual budget? Maybe go down to the local Payday Loan Center and hawk a couple Shocker shuttles then.
Oh... so you're thinking that it WASN'T about money at all now huh? Hmmm... that's interesting. Well then, I guess we have to drop that argument altogether and pick the other option which is the most ludicrous in my mind. Mini-B was given a 6th year because BeltLight (because he's fat and it needs to be loosened.. get it?) thought that Butler was going to have a break out season! He thought year six was when it was all going to come together...
What a winner. And they gave this guy a contract extension... "Jesus God" he must come cheap.
But wait a minute... I just contradicted myself from earlier when I said that BellRung told player's parents at the beginning of the year that rumor rumor rumor rumor rumor. So now we're back to the scenario where The Wichita State University cannot absorb a measly $300K per year even after making a big splash hire and all the subsequent fans who'd come racing back to the ball park.
I give up. The only thing I can say with near 100% certainty is that BankRupt is one out-of-his-depth S.O.B and has hurt the baseball program with his incompetence.
The End.
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You and Fever have done enough bashing of Darron. Why continue your negativity? Does it make you feel important? Many of us fans are fatigued by your worn out nonsense.Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded View Post
Give the guy some credit when he makes HIS hire of a baseball coach. He simply played the cards he was dealt. I guess if either of you knew anything about sports other than to constantly slander the AD you would be working in the athletic department with a seat at the table. But alas you are faceless posters on a internet fan site because you can’t do anything else to contribute to the situation.
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You sound like a Socialist jcd: "the cards he was dealt..." Boo freaking hoo! He's the goddam director of the program. He MAKES the cards. **** it. If you weren't around when Schaus was here you will have no idea what I'm talking about. Boatright is a maintenance man at best.
Fended off multiple programs SB Shock????? Do tell. Did he use a sword? Gregg Marshall does EXACTLY what Gregg Marshall wants to do. ADES is who saved HCGM. He and a group of powerful Shocker supporters. Speaking of ADES... I can guarangoddamteeyou that Mini-B doesn't hit year 6 with ADES in charge.
That's how badly BoutRight mismanaged the baseball coaching staff.
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I agree with the ADDB bashers. I'm not any more impressed with him than I was Sexton. Boatright has had plenty of time to make a change. The reason for him not doing it doesn't matter. If it was a money issues, I can think of thousands of boosters and alumni that would have gladly chipped in to help buy out Butlers contract.
If it was truly because Boatright honestly thought the program was improving, then he is the stupidest MFer in the world. Either way, as someone that HAS worked in athletic departments, Boatright is easily among the top 5 worst ADs I have ever seen.
And let's get real, Boatright ISN'T hiring the next head coach, the ALUMNI is.
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