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I could see Standiford as an associate head coach in waiting for an Eric Wedge led team, if he’d be interested. He’s got the NCAA recruiting experience, plus regional high school and Juco connections, that neither Wedge nor Hooper possess coming in. That said, I would think that the latter two would be excellent recruiters just by force of personality. The gravitas is pretty much dripping off both those guys.“The rebellion on the populist right against the results of the 2020 election was partly a cynical, knowing effort by political operators and their hype men in the media to steal an election or at least get rich trying. But it was also the tragic consequence of the informational malnourishment so badly afflicting the nation. ... Americans gorge themselves daily on empty informational calories, indulging their sugar fixes of self-affirming half-truths and even outright lies.'”
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Originally posted by ABC View PostWhy Standiford?
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How is Hooper's situation any different? No college coaching experience and the "recruiting" he did for the Wichita pro team is totally different. Assuming Wedge is even interested, much the same. No recruiting experience and managing pro players at the highest level is altogether different than college players. The one thing they all have is common is their experience at WSU and with fHCGS and staff.
Of course, I'm assuming they go with somebody from the WSU baseball family in an effort to bring fans and WSU baseball excitement back. They could make the hire from the outside, but will that have an immediate fan impact? Many may just hold off to "wait and see" what happens for a few years.
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Well, ABC, WSU tried it the "proven" way last time with an assistant from a high-level program in Butler, and how has that worked out? You're worried about risk after that experience -- or is my meter not reading out correctly?
Actually, the "proven" way did work the first time WSU tried it, because that's how they got Gene, who was (shall we say) fairly successful. The obvious potential concern about Butler was that he had tried head coaching once, and had been not much better than .500 at McNeese (whereas Stephenson was totally untested as a head man and thus had never had a chance to put up a mediocre record). Unfortunately, the potential concern about Butler seems to have materialized.
Maybe WSU just needs to spend another $600k or so and pull even with Oregon State, because apparently the difference between what the Shocks are spending and what the Beavers are spending is enough to take a program from hoping for a spot in the NCAA field to playing for national championships the way WSU used to. Or then again, maybe there's more involved than just the money...
Personally, I think either Standiford or Hooper would be a risk worth taking.Last edited by WSUwatcher; April 23, 2019, 01:50 AM.
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Originally posted by ABC View PostI just don't see how someone can go from NAIA to high-level Division 1. Seems WAY too risky.
The Shocker athletic program does have some recent positive experience in hiring head coaches out of a lower division as 8th year Shocker softball head coach Kristi Bredbenner has done a good job. Coach Bredbenner came to Wichita State after leading D-II Emporia State though NCAA D-II is a lot closer to D-1 than NAIA is. As far as coaching and teaching ability baseball is baseball..
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Hooper vs. Standiford.
Tomato vs. Tomawto. It depends on the viewpoint of each individual. There are pluses and minuses to each. I personally think that Hooper is a Kansan, and a great player who made it to Triple A ball and has the personality to sell ice at the North Pole. OTOH, Mark Standiford is a very likeable guy (obviously great collegiate and low pro player) who is a Wichitan who may have some high NAIA recruiting contacts. No Div. 1 experience.
The only home run (maybe not a HR hire) hire might be Eric Wedge who may not be interested and who probably doesn’t need the money because of the amount he made as an MLB manager. He also doesn’t have any Div. 1 experience.
I wish these here guys had been on the WSU staff previously.
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Originally posted by WichitaStateGuy View PostBest option is also the best salad... Wedge.
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I’m thinking Wedge makes a comeback with Hooper as top assistant and recruiter. A very high profile no nonsense head coach with a knowledgeable even tempered assistant. Both personalities would play off each other for a strong leadership and direction. Just what I think would work best going forward
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Perhaps a clarification on why I feel Hooper would be a great recruiter. In the olden days of our success our staff found lightly recruited players in legion ball and games around Kansas and Oklahoma. Now days they have show case games and kids with potential are given more opportunities to have exposure to more recruiters. I would pit Hooper against anyone to sell a program to any of these kids. I just think that the environment has changed so much that a man like Hooper with his personality would be amazing
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Originally posted by 1972Shocker View Post
Is that really an option? And even if it is I am not convinced it is the best option.
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Originally posted by pogo View PostI’m thinking Wedge makes a comeback with Hooper as top assistant and recruiter. A very high profile no nonsense head coach with a knowledgeable even tempered assistant. Both personalities would play off each other for a strong leadership and direction. Just what I think would work best going forward
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