Major League Draft

[shock10]

Tyler Baker drafted by Cleveland in round 50 Pick 1508

[Snapshot9]

My biggest question is how can we have so much talent on the roster that gets drafted as high and as often as our players do and not win the valley and completely under perform? We just are not doing enough with our talent. There is a definite lack in development and that is a huge concern.

Maybe we aren't as talented as you like to think we are. If we were that talented we would be playing in a super regional. Not a one of them can hit their way out of a wet paper bag except O'Brien.

[1972Shocker]

Tyler Baker drafted by Cleveland in round 50 Pick 1508

I knew I probably missed at least one. Good Catch.

Updated List:

Final Shocker Draft List (assuming I did not miss anyone):

5/175 - Tyler Grimes - Twins (Signed 6/9/11)
6/193 - Charlie Lowell - Marlins
7/227 - Brian Flynn - Detroit
18/554 - Chris O'Brien - Dodgers
21/654 - Chance Sossamon - Rangers (Signed 6/9/11)
25/767 - Mitch Mormann - Detroit
26/791 - Josh Smith - Brewers
45/1369 - Johnny Coy - Bluejays
45/1381 - A.J. Ladwig - Phillies (Incoming Freshman)
50/1508 - Tyler Baker - Cleveland (Incoming Freshman)

[billybud]

How different are the draft numbers/places from the CWS appearance days?

[BostonWu]

[He could very easily have a solid season next year. I'm hoping the 3rd time is the charm much like it was for COB this year and how it was for Lassley and Bascue after not doing much thier first few seasons. Except Coy has averaged 47 RBI his first two years.

Yes, let's hope that is exactly what happens. JC will be very instrumental in how the Shocks go next year (assuming he doesn't tear up the Cape this Summer and attracts the kind of money he wants to sign).

JC could have a COB type of breakout season and it's going to take a whole lot more than one guy to get this team's offensive numbers turned around.

[CharlieHog]

Tyler Baker drafted by Cleveland in round 50 Pick 1508

I knew I probably missed at least one. Good Catch.

Updated List:

Final Shocker Draft List (assuming I did not miss anyone):

5/175 - Tyler Grimes - Twins
6/193 - Charlie Lowell - Marlins
7/227 - Brian Flynn - Detroit
18/554 - Chris O'Brien - Dodgers
21/654 - Chance Sossamon - Rangers
25/767 - Mitch Mormann - Detroit
26/791 - Josh Smith - Brewers
45/1369 - Johnny Coy - Bluejays
45/1381 - A.J. Ladwig - Phillies (Incoming Freshman)
50/1508 - Tyler Baker - Cleveland (Incoming Freshman)

Are you saying that you guys didn't have any recruits drafted until the 45th round?

[shocker22]

Tyler Baker drafted by Cleveland in round 50 Pick 1508

I knew I probably missed at least one. Good Catch.

Updated List:

Final Shocker Draft List (assuming I did not miss anyone):

5/175 - Tyler Grimes - Twins
6/193 - Charlie Lowell - Marlins
7/227 - Brian Flynn - Detroit
18/554 - Chris O'Brien - Dodgers
21/654 - Chance Sossamon - Rangers
25/767 - Mitch Mormann - Detroit
26/791 - Josh Smith - Brewers
45/1369 - Johnny Coy - Bluejays
45/1381 - A.J. Ladwig - Phillies (Incoming Freshman)
50/1508 - Tyler Baker - Cleveland (Incoming Freshman)

Are you saying that you guys didn't have any recruits drafted until the 45th round?

Yep...I am deciding to think it's because most of our recruits are unsignable. :roll:

[1972Shocker]

Tyler Baker drafted by Cleveland in round 50 Pick 1508

I knew I probably missed at least one. Good Catch.

Updated List:

Final Shocker Draft List (assuming I did not miss anyone):

5/175 - Tyler Grimes - Twins
6/193 - Charlie Lowell - Marlins
7/227 - Brian Flynn - Detroit
18/554 - Chris O'Brien - Dodgers
21/654 - Chance Sossamon - Rangers
25/767 - Mitch Mormann - Detroit
26/791 - Josh Smith - Brewers
45/1369 - Johnny Coy - Bluejays
45/1381 - A.J. Ladwig - Phillies (Incoming Freshman)
50/1508 - Tyler Baker - Cleveland (Incoming Freshman)

Are you saying that you guys didn't have any recruits drafted until the 45th round?

That's the fact Jack, er I mean Charlie. Out of curiosity how did the Hogs' recruiting class fare in the draft?

[1972Shocker]

Never mind Charlie, I found the info I was asking about on the Razorback web site:

On Monday, Brandon Nimmo, an outfielder from Cheyenne, Wyo., was taken with the 13th overall pick by the New York Mets, while Michael Fulmer, a right-handed pitcher from Edmond, Okla., was also drafted by the Mets in the compensation A round with the 44th overall pick.

Five Arkansas signees were drafted on Tuesday. Dillon Howard, a right-handed pitcher from Searcy, Ark., was selected in the second round with the 67th overall pick by the Cleveland Indians. Greg Bird, a first baseman/catcher from Aurora, Colo., was drafted in the fifth round (179th overall) by the New York Yankees. In the 12th round (385th overall), Joe Serrano, an infielder from Tucson, Ariz., was drafted by the Cincinnati Reds. Conor Costello, a right-handed pitcher from Edmond, Okla., was also picked by the Cincinnati Reds in the 16th round (505th overall). Brian Anderson, an infielder/right-handed pitcher from Edmond, Okla., and a high school teammate of Fulmer, was selected by the Minnesota Twins in the 20th round (628th overall).

Four Arkansas signees were selected on the final day of the draft bringing the total of Arkansas signees picked in the 2011 draft to 11. Nevin Wilson, a left-handed pitcher from Scottsdale, Ariz., was drafted in the 44th round (1351st overall) by the Philadelphia Phillies. Mark Reyes, a left-handed pitcher from Hot Springs, Ark., was picked in the 46th round (1385th overall) by the Baltimore Orioles. An infielder from Brenham, Texas, Drake Roberts was a 49th round (1498th overall) selection of the Minnesota Twins. David Masters, an infielder from St. Louis, Mo., was drafted by the Arizona Diamondbacks in the 50th round (1504th overall).

At least we won't have to sweat through the summer worrrying about who will go pro with our class.

[1972Shocker]

Ding, ding, ding.

Johnny Coy to the Toronto in Round 45 (#1369).

A long way from the 7th round pick out of high school.

What does this comment mean?

We don't know what sort of conversations he has had. Maybe he made it clear he was coming back. Last year he was draft eligible, was a freshman all-american and wasn't even drafted (at least I think he wasn't). My understanding was he made it clear he was going back to school. So maybe thats what took place again this year.

He could very easily have a solid season next year. I'm hoping the 3rd time is the charm much like it was for COB this year and how it was for Lassley and Bascue after not doing much thier first few seasons. Except Coy has averaged 47 RBI his first two years.

The comment means that JC fell a long way from a 7th round draft pick out of high school. Which I suppose could have been left unsaid.

nah, after reading it again I over reacted.

The reason I posted "Ding, ding, ding" was only becuase we went 19 rounds without any Shocker or Shocker recruit being drafted which surprised me a little bit, but maybe it shouldn't have.

[shock10]

We had players drafted before the 19th round. Grimes 5th Lowell 6th Flynn 7th, and O'Brien 18th. No one in the 19th was drafted.

[shocker22]

My biggest question is how can we have so much talent on the roster that gets drafted as high and as often as our players do and not win the valley and completely under perform? We just are not doing enough with our talent. There is a definite lack in development and that is a huge concern.

Maybe we aren't as talented as you like to think we are. If we were that talented we would be playing in a super regional. Not a one of them can hit their way out of a wet paper bag except O'Brien.

I think the draft of our players shows us that we have the talent, it just doesn't get developed on the field, that is why we are not in a regional or any post season!

[shock10]

11 recruits drafted that's great BUT how many will be in Arkansas after August 15th? They could be scrambling for player like we have in the past. I would be worried. They could lose up to 7 and maybe more. That would bum me if it was WSU.

[1972Shocker]

We had players drafted before the 19th round. Grimes 5th Lowell 6th Flynn 7th, and O'Brien 18th. No one in the 19th was drafted.

We went from Round 26 (Josh Smith) to Round 45 (Johnny Coy) without any Shocker or Shocker recruit drafted (45-26 = 19).

Players available but not taken during that stretch inlcuded Johnny Coy, Tim Kelley, Preston Springer, Don Lambert, Kevin Hall and Ryan Hege plus all of our incoming recruits.

Sorry for the lack of clarity.

[1972Shocker]

11 recruits drafted that's great BUT how many will be in Arkansas after August 15th? They could be scrambling for player like we have in the past. I would be worried. They could lose up to 7 and maybe more. That would bum me if it was WSU.

That's what makes recruiting for the College game a sunny beach.

And yes we have had some classes decimated in the past. It ain't fun. Although it's great when you get a Mike Pelfrey or two making it to campus.

I'm glad I don't have to deal with it as part of a Coaching staff.