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  • #16
    Originally posted by LuskingforGuttin View Post
    This would be a total non-issue if it didn't involve a Duke player and especially one that is the next in line of the hated Duke guys. This is by far the most blown out of proportion college basketball story of the season. I mean people are analyzing it like the Zapruder film.
    Allen is an elite level player and an elite level asshat.

    He's not going to learn anything until someone does something drastic.....his coach....maybe another player might whip his ass.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by LuskingforGuttin View Post
      This would be a total non-issue if it didn't involve a Duke player and especially one that is the next in line of the hated Duke guys. This is by far the most blown out of proportion college basketball story of the season. I mean people are analyzing it like the Zapruder film.
      You're joking.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by ShockerFever View Post
        You're joking.
        No, its Casey.
        There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by LuskingforGuttin View Post
          This would be a total non-issue if it didn't involve a Duke player and especially one that is the next in line of the hated Duke guys. This is by far the most blown out of proportion college basketball story of the season. I mean people are analyzing it like the Zapruder film.
          Amazing!! One would think that as The Brat is playing for Duke, he would understand it will be an issue and receive a lot a (bad) attention.

          Ahh, but alas, he must not understand and that is why The Brat, as @moshock: said so well, is an elite level asshat and fully deserving of all the bad attention he and Duke gets.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by LuskingforGuttin View Post
            This would be a total non-issue if it didn't involve a Duke player and especially one that is the next in line of the hated Duke guys. This is by far the most blown out of proportion college basketball story of the season. I mean people are analyzing it like the Zapruder film.
            Okay, Casey, let me explain. I know you're a little slow, your mom drinkin' the shine while she was pregnant and all, but here goes. Kicking is a big deal. It's a big deal at Duke, it's a big deal at UMKC. Sure, the national media won't pick up on this type of situation at UMKC, but the local media will, as will the media within their conference. Players on other teams will know, the fans will know, coaches will know and referees will know.

            It's a big deal.
            There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by MoValley John View Post
              Okay, Casey, let me explain. I know you're a little slow, your mom drinkin' the shine while she was pregnant and all, but here goes. Kicking is a big deal. It's a big deal at Duke, it's a big deal at UMKC. Sure, the national media won't pick up on this type of situation at UMKC, but the local media will, as will the media within their conference. Players on other teams will know, the fans will know, coaches will know and referees will know.

              It's a big deal.
              I don't disagree that in your example, the WAC wouldn't know about a situation like this. Officials, local media, and the conference itself.

              My issue with this whole fiasco is that the national media is fanning the flames and you have a lot of people thinking that this kid effectively should be finished with college basketball. And the disconnect for me is that there are what, three supposedly confirmed situations where this has occurred and he was assessed one total technical foul in the whole deal? Maybe two? I can't recall.

              I generally have faith in organizations that they will do the right thing. Unless there is overwhelming evidence that they are corrupt, dirty, etc. Duke is a great academic institution. Coach K went to West Point and while he has many detractors I think the world generally respects him. Likewise Mike White is probably in the top 3 of most well-liked and respected ADs in all of college athletics. Don't you think that Duke would take serious action if they thought all of the concern was valid? They know more than anyone about the kid and the situation. They have a reputation to uphold as one of the nation's fine universities. This ain't some commuter school like UNLV or something. Secondly, don't you think the ACC would suspend Allen if they thought his actions were worthy of it? Especially if they feel like it is putting fellow conference members student-athletes health in jeopardy? And they have I am sure investigated and taken no action. And thirdly, the NCAA takes a lot of abuse but they would take action too in my opinion if they felt it was warranted and yet they have not acted.

              Honestly I feel bad for the kid. By all accounts he is a good dude and I think there is some mental issue with this. He just struggles to control it or something. I don't think that he is at shootaround on the day of a game and thinks "I am totally going to trip someone today and nobody will do anything about it." It's a weird deal but I don't think he is deserving of all the ridiculous piling on that you see from the national guys on social media.

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              • #22
                Oh, good grief Casey, get a handle on reality. This guy is intentionally tripping people. Check out some east coast HS ball. they don't always play nice. He's got a right to put his feet where he wants to put them. It's not necessarily a foul if another player trips over them. He's exploiting something in the rules to his advantage and he doesn't care if he hurts someone.

                Casey, you are right about Duke having a decent reputation. They are losing it with their lack of serious action on this. When he tried to do it again, after his 1-game suspension, it was obvious the coaches and administration didn't care if he was bending the rules and endangering opponents - as long as he could help them win some games.

                If he's planning on an NBA career, he better learn to play a little different style. There are enforcers in the NBA and they take injuries seriously.
                The future's so bright - I gotta wear shades.
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                • #23
                  Is he going to have to seriously injure someone before they decide that other players' careers are more important than Duke winning?
                  "You Don't Have to Play a Perfect Game. Your Best is Good Enough."

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by ShockdaWorld View Post
                    Is he going to have to seriously injure someone before they decide that other players' careers are more important than Duke winning?
                    Yes. But more importantly, he's going to have to seriously injure someone that 'they' think is valuable.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Aargh View Post
                      If he's planning on an NBA career, he better learn to play a little different style. There are enforcers in the NBA and they take injuries seriously.

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                      • #26
                        Here is how X would handle him if he pulled that on a teammate:
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                        Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss

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                        • #27
                          Clearly he's just helping him back to his feet.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by 1972Shocker View Post
                            There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.

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                            • #29
                              shame that Duke just lost 88-72....

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by mjbaker84 View Post
                                shame that Duke just lost 88-72....
                                It doesn't count anyway.

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