Conference Shake Up 2.0

[ShockTalk]

I just don't understand non-BCS teams flocking to the Big Least, turning them into a non-BCS conference. They will lose their current standing, particularly after the next couple of teams (from Louisville, Cincinnati, and/or UConn) leave. Cincy took it in the shorts again today losing their coach to a real BCS team. That's 3 coaches who have recently left them like they are (and they are) a part of non-BCS conference.

[SubGod22]

I just don't understand non-BCS teams flocking to the Big Least, turning them into a non-BCS conference. They will lose their current standing, particularly after the next couple of teams (from Louisville, Cincinnati, and/or UConn) leave. Cincy took it in the shorts again today losing their coach to a real BCS team. That's 3 coaches who have recently left them like they are (and they are) a part of non-BCS conference.

Louisville is leaving. Joining the ACC.

[ripemupshocks]

The Big East is just getting crazy. Spread out from one coast to the other. Some only join for football, some don't play football at all. Some only play this, some only play that. What a mess. It's becoming like a big hodgepodge of teams with absolutely nothing in common. Sort of like the college sports conference equivalent to abstract art. Everyone is staring at it trying to figure out just what the hell it is.

Ironically, the Big East was formed specifically to be a premier northeastern basketball conference. But greed and BCS football are what's tearing it apart. I can't believe the northeast non-football schools like Georgetown, Villanova, Seton Hall, St. John's, and Providence, all of which (except Villanova) are founding members of the BE, would be happy with the likes of Houston, SMU, Tulane, and yet another Florida directional school, UCF. Maybe sooner or later those northeast teams will say to hell with this, and join with some of the eastern A-10 teams to form a new conference. Perhaps then the four western most A-10 teams could be lured into the MVC. We could still play a round-robin schedule, but in a much stronger MVC.

[pogo]

When texass seceeds from the union will they be allowed to participate in the ncaa or will they start their own tcaa and proclaim their sports champions World Champions? Texas is a great state but really there are more than a few that are a little too full of themselves.

[GoShockers89]

Things are about to get real for decent basketball-only schools. This would have huge ripple effects.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/21353826/big-easts-non-football-members-meet-discuss-possible-breakaway

[tropicalshox]

I suggest Dr. Sexton contact them ASAP and let them know of our basketball program's availability.

[SubGod22]

That's very interesting. The idea has been thrown out there since all of this began, and maybe before, but I'd always heard that Georgetown and one other have been hesitant. If the money is falling off as drastically as is being reported, I could see this happening. Now, if we'd be considered or not is another story, but being in a conference with Creighton, Butler, Dayton, Xavier, Georgetown, Mason, VCU, Nova...

I could see that conference being one that would get plenty of exposure and have the ability to make a name for itself. We better inquire and see if we can work with CU to get in together if it happens.

[ShockTalk]

Maybe an east/west division of 8 schools each?

East: Georgetown, Providence, Seton Hall, St. John's, Villanova, VCU. Xavier, George Mason

West: Marquette, DePaul, Creighton, Wichita State, Dayton, Butler, St. Louis, Bradley

[SubGod22]

Maybe an east/west division of 8 schools each?

East: Georgetown, Providence, Seton Hall, St. John's, Villanova, VCU. Xavier, George Mason

West: Marquette, DePaul, Creighton, Wichita State, Dayton, Butler, St. Louis, Bradley

I could see this conference getting at least 5 bids a year.

[ShockTalk]

Maybe an east/west division of 8 schools each?

East: Georgetown, Providence, Seton Hall, St. John's, Villanova, VCU. Xavier, George Mason

West: Marquette, DePaul, Creighton, Wichita State, Dayton, Butler, St. Louis, Bradley

I could see this conference getting at least 5 bids a year.

MORE! This would be much like the old Big East. Anyone finishing with an above .500 conference record, with a good OOC, is in. The talent level, and depth of it, would improve for several of these schools.

[SubGod22]

5 was my worst case scenario. I could definitely see half the league getting in and who knows, maybe a few more. Would be a very strong basketball conference. Georgetown, Nova, VCU, Xavier, Marquette, Creighton, Wichita, Dayton, Butler would all be in play every year. And a few of the others are capable. It would be a lot of fun and a hell of a fight. But at least the in conference games would mean something and actually help and a couple of losses wouldn't kill you.

Last years end of season RPI:

8 Marquette
12 Wichita
15 Georgetown
24 Creighton
31 Saint Louis
38 VCU
41 Xavier
68 Seton Hall
81 Dayton
82 Mason
116 Butler
119 Nova
156 Providence
158 St. John's
197 DePaul
264 Bradley

[Rocky Mountain Shock]

If we sit on the sidelines while this is going down I'm gonna be pissed.

[SubGod22]

If we sit on the sidelines while this is going down I'm gonna be pissed.

If something like this is being talked about, I hope Sexton has at least been in contact with whoever is in charge at Creighton and putting out feelers to the BE Catholics. I know most of the schools mentioned are Catholic, but there are a few others involved in these rumors as well. I'd hope that even though we're way out here, if they're reaching into Nebraska that they'd strongly consider a very strong basketball program with great fan support in Kansas.

If we get stuck in the MVC while CU and maybe even BU get a life line to a conference like the one above, I'd lead the charge to oust Sexton! He needs to be doing everything he possibly can to get us in on this.

[SubGod22]

Another advantage of this proposed conference would be scheduling. Maybe it'd take a couple of years to prove the conference is legit, I don't know, but with the success that would be found, scheduling bigger and better schools would be easier.

[RoyalShock]

Sexton is not the only one who needs to be on top of this.

President Bardo. Not only are university presidents highly involved in conference affiliation matters, joining a higher-profile conference would be a nice boost to his plan of increasing enrollment.