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Originally posted by 1979Shocker
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My how gracious. What do these people do on January 2015 when they are faced with the exact same problem ... lost insurance and double the price for a comparable plan?Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille! -
Actually on second thought, this is great if those cancellation letters start going out in October ... right before the next round of elections. How much you want to bet they don't? Obama will strong-arm the insurance industry to prevent that.Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!Comment
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49,100 was what was being reported earlier this week with enrollments for October, of course the administration can't really give a exact number, Scholars maintain that the count was lost hundreds of years ago.Originally posted by Kung Wu View PostComment
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Okay folks....first of all, can he even do this?
Edit: What a ****ing joke he, this plan, his entire administration, and every single idiot that voted for him are.Comment
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He is the Dear Leader you know....Originally posted by WuDrWu View Post
“I wonder if he has the legal authority to do this, since this was a congressional bill that set this up,” --- Howard Dean
LOL, Obama new plan is "Just kidding"Comment
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Sure he can. I know its a law, but it's his law. What I don't get is this, if these policies are problems now, they still will be a problem in a year. Nothing has been done.Originally posted by WuDrWu View Post
This whole thing is a joke. This isn't getting g better, he's just kicking the can down the road. It might help Senate D's with midterms and all the House D's, but not by much. It pretty much ****s any D running for president.
I don't think he cares about the next POTUS, though.There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.Comment
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He will get paid VERY, VERY WELL to care about the next Democrat candidate. VERY well.Originally posted by MoValley John View PostKung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!Comment
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I still don't understand how he can just "change" law. I even don't really understand how he has the power to direct the IRS or the AG to not prosecute (or persecute as it were) the letter of the law. I realize that's minutia, and he can just tell them not to, but that seems still wrong.Originally posted by MoValley John View Post
Anyway, prepare yourselves for the ************ of all spin jobs. The insurance companies, change or not, are about to get the blame of all blames from the left. They'll be hung out to dry so fast it would make your grandmother's head spin on Saturday.Comment
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Washington state rejects Obama "oops" plan.Comment
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Arkansas has as well. The Obamacare boondogle may now be beyond partisanship. Democrats want a fix and states want a fix. Republicans get to sit on the sidelines and watch this mess grow and grow. With that, Democratic politicians may not allow Obama to kick the can down the road. They know that a year delay almost guarantees a Republican landslide in the midterms. The odd thing is that just a month and a half ago, the GOP was dead. How quickly Americans have forgotten about the government shutdown, and those that do remember, remember that the Republicans were fighting to simply stop this mess Obama has us in.Originally posted by SB Shock View Post
Somehow, I think Obama will wiggle out of this mess, but as days pass, the odds get longer. I still think he has a coat of teflon britches and will survive. He has lost every single independent, he has lost every moderate, but he still has the press carrying his water. That said, the buckets the press is carrying are getting smaller and smaller. If the press quits on Obama, he's a dead man walking.There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.Comment
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So an insurance company can, if they want, reopen a plan that they have already closed. Sell it only to those that already had that plan. And only be able to sell it for one more year. And that is a "fix"? What insurance company is going to be dumb enough to do that? The only thing this fix does is to allow Obama to say "See I let you keep you insurance. It's the insurance companies that took it away from you. Not me."White House officials said they will send a letter to state insurance commissioners specifying that current plans sold to existing customers will not be considered out of compliance with the health care law in 2014.Comment
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So an insurance company can, if they want, reopen a plan that they have already closed. Sell it only to those that already had that plan. And only be able to sell it for one more year. And that is a "fix"? What insurance company is going to be dumb enough to do that? The only thing this fix does is to allow Obama to say "See I let you keep you insurance. It's the insurance companies that took it away from you. Not me."[/QUOTE]Originally posted by jdmee View Post
None. Not one single insurance company will take on the expense of resurecting a policy for one year, it's not worth the expense. And that is why the states are rejecting the Obama fix. Furthermore, this mess is certainly going to increase rates almost across the board as the Obama pools will not have the expected participation. The actuaries have already spoken on the matter. Every day that goes by with less participation than expected, further puts Obamacare in the red. Don't mess with actuaries and numbers, they always win.There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.Comment
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In theory, yeas, in practicality, no. To transition to single payer, it will take time. Time to get people on the exchanges. Time to get companies to dump coverage, and simply pay the fines. Time to increase taxes to cover single payer. If this turns into a goat f@&k too fast, it is a huge setback for single payer.Originally posted by RoyalShock View Post
The costs associated with single payer are beyond enormous. The government can't raise those taxes to that level in a year, or even five. But given time, if Obamacare were able to whittle away at the corporate pools, sieze the penalties, slowly increase tax rates, at the same time, come up with a "Federal" plan that augments the private plans, the US would shift to single payer in 15-20 years. But with the systematic collapse of Obamacare out of the gate, single payer gets crushed as well.
Then again, if we shifted to single payer tomorrow, how many insurance salesmen, actuaries, accountants, risk managers and more, would suddenly be out of work??? That is an ugly picture.There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.Comment
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This is an excellent question. Of course inconvenient rules haven't stopped him before.Originally posted by WuDrWu View PostKung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!Comment
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