Healthcare Hypocricy?

[1979Shocker]

Officials: Slower health spending growth may boost jobs

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/11/20/health-care-spending-growth/3650243/

WASHINGTON — Buoyed by a report showing that health care spending has risen by the lowest rate ever recorded, White House officials said Wednesday a continuation of the trend could lead to more jobs and lower-than-expected costs.

Reduced health care costs for employers could lead to 200,000 to 400,000 new jobs per year by the second half of the decade, said Jason Furman, the chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers.

"If just half the recent slowdown in spending can be sustained, health care spending a decade from now will be $1,400 per person lower," Furman said.

The Council of Economic Advisers report released Wednesday also said health care inflation is the lowest it has been in 50 years.

The White House report also cited increases in cost-sharing, such as high-deductible insurance plans, as helping to push down costs.

"Deductibles increased from 2006 to 2013," Furman said, but the pace of growth slowed from 2010 to 2013. "It didn't accelerate after the Affordable Care Act passed. In fact, it decelerated."

Because of cost reductions, the Congressional Budget Office reduced Medicare and Medicaid spending projections in 2020 by $147 billion since 2010, the report noted.

[Kung Wu]

Scenario: Your insurance company has cancelled your policy and you determine you can't afford the new cost of insurance and decide to pay the tax. Then you have a serious accident that requires hospitalization in, say, May.

Quiz:

1) No problem, I'll immediately enroll in insurance while in the hospital and the new preexisting condition laws will prevent me from going through bankruptcy.

2) No problem, medicare or medicaid will bail me out.

3) I'm screwed because I can't enroll in insurance to cover the preexisting condition until the open enrollment period the following year. By then my bills will have already been astronomical just like before Obamacare (except even more expensive due to medicare/medicaid price controls).

[rjl]

Curious how many of you think the healthcare laws were just fine the way they were before the Affordable Care Act.

Show of hands.

[wu_shizzle]

Curious how many of you think the healthcare laws were just fine the way they were before the Affordable Care Act.

Show of hands.

What laws are you referring to?

The laws that require large IDNs to write off care provided to those who use the ER like their Family Practice?

Or maybe the laws that forbid health insurers from competing in a national market?

Or even the laws that discouraged non-profits from providing low/no cost treatment to the poor.

I don't think the healthcare "laws" were "just fine", but the ACA did little to nothing to fix what was fixable.

[SB Shock]

Curious how many of you think the healthcare laws were just fine the way they were before the Affordable Care Act.

Show of hands.

There is the problem - health care insurance is not entitlement or law, it is INSURANCE.

[MoValley John]

Curious how many of you think the healthcare laws were just fine the way they were before the Affordable Care Act.

Show of hands.

Besides your obvious swing and a miss, are you saying that this mess we have now is better than the mess we had before Obamacare? You are admitting that your philosophy is that it is better to do something really poorly under the guise of "good intentions, than to take the proper amount of time and fix the "problem" correctly, right? Is that what you believe?

Hell is full of people with good intentions.

[pinstripers]

One of the more frightening things about this debacle is that at this point, we are talking about health insurance, which Obama has demonstrated that he cannot deliver. In a couple months, the problem will be health care, which is even more difficult to deliver on. Folks are gonna die.

[WuDrWu]

What's really laughable is these idiots call themselves Progressives. They aren't progressive at all. They simply believe one group of people have too much at the expense of another, larger group of people. Not one of these dope smokers has a clue about a new idea. It's all about how can we take from one group and give to the other, under whatever guise we can come up with. It's all smoke and mirrors.

[RoyalShock]

What's really laughable is these idiots call themselves Progressives. They aren't progressive at all. They simply believe one group of people have too much at the expense of another, larger group of people. Not one of these dope smokers has a clue about a new idea. It's all about how can we take from one group and give to the other, under whatever guise we can come up with. It's all smoke and mirrors.

They should be called Regressives, since that whole redistribution thing has been tried before. Re-wrapping it in prettier paper doesn't change what's inside.

[SB Shock]

Harry Reid exempts his staff from Obama Care.

[Dave Stalwart]

1000!

Can we rename this "Any news on healthcare hypocrisy?"

[WuDrWu]

Harry Reid exempts his staff from Obama Care.

Awesome. Why can't they be held to the same standard by the entire country, DEM or GOP? Why isn't there outrage across the board?

[Kung Wu]

Price controls: Did you know doctors get paid 72 cents on the dollar for Medicaid patients (on average)? Have you ever run a business? Think if the government came in one day and said you had to discount all of your products or services by 30%. How long would you be able to keep your doors open?

[SB Shock]

Price controls: Did you know doctors get paid 72 cents on the dollar for Medicaid patients (on average)? Have you ever run a business? Think if the government came in one day and said you had to discount all of your products or services by 30%. How long would you be able to keep your doors open?

wouldn't the logical thing to do is just increase the cost of your services +40%

[Kung Wu]

wouldn't the logical thing to do is just increase the cost of your services +40%

LMAO -- Funny.