Democrats Speaker of the House to Resign!

[shocka khan]

Why would that twist anyone?

I'm probably looking at this through my contexting, but there are a bunch of people here that dislike unions and I'm betting there are some here that would detest Ann Richards if they knew her (and I thought some would know her).

Sort of like the Aldi thing you got me to fall for awhile back. We had few to no Aldi stores in Houston at the time. None are close to my house, they are out in the 'burbs. Therefore I knew nothing about Aldi as a company or as an investment. My only recollection was occasionally going to the store in Gladstone, Missouri when we visited my (ex)mother-in-law. That would have been over 30 years ago.

[shocka khan]

Forensics experts claimed under oath today that the videos are: “authentic and show no evidence of manipulation or editing,”

http://dailysignal.com/2015/09/29/forensic-analysis-planned-parenthood-videos-are-authentic/

Cecile Richards seemed to take a different tone under oath as well. Amazing how the story changes with the threat of a perjury charge.

Yes, I'm not really following this one close, but it was surprising to me that she admitted in the hearing that they perform almost zero mammograms (according to Dave Stalwart's post). That whole schtick appears to have been blatantly misleading.

It would be interesting to see how Dale Daleiden would have fared if Bella Lugosi (my nickname for Nancy Pelosi) had called him up to the stand. Again, according to what I read today, he was trying to claim the 5th on almost all discovery resulting from a civil suit filed against him by a pro-abortion group in San Francisco. Dalieden lost that suit, so he's going to have to testify.

My take on this entire sordid affair is that there are people on both sides who are blatantly lying. It will be interesting to see the consequences of this prefaraction once the civil suit starts.

[WuDrWu]

And in the most ultimate of ironies today, I discovered that Cecile Richards is actually the daughter of Ann Richards, a man-hater (along with her significant other Molly Ivins) if there ever was one.

One positive note about Cecile, though, she is married.....to a union organizer for the SEIU. That ought to really twist some people on this blog.

Now, I think I'll sit back, enjoy my popcorn and watch on that note.

Poor Anne......she died.

[WuDrWu]

I'm probably looking at this through my contexting, but there are a bunch of people here that dislike unions and I'm betting there are some here that would detest Ann Richards if they knew her (and I thought some would know her).

Sort of like the Aldi thing you got me to fall for awhile back. We had few to no Aldi stores in Houston at the time. None are close to my house, they are out in the 'burbs. Therefore I knew nothing about Aldi as a company or as an investment. My only recollection was occasionally going to the store in Gladstone, Missouri when we visited my (ex)mother-in-law. That would have been over 30 years ago.

I dislike Anne a great deal (although honestly I've softened my stance since the start of her permanent dirt nap) and the SIEU substantially more, but eh, whatever. It's not exactly surprising the 2 are in bed together.

What gets me is people like Carville and Matalin or the more recent (and tragic) Mary Katherine Ham and Jake Brewer. It's people like these who are so blatantly disingenuous that it makes you distrust everything in politics.

[tropicalshox]

Anybody have a full length video link of the hearing.?

[Rlh04d]

If this is still a thread about the Speaker of the House, Kevin McCarthy dropped out of the candidacy for Speaker today.

It is very, very possible at this point that the House will not be able to meet the vote threshold to choose John Boehner's successor anytime soon. Given that Boehner stepping down without a replacement would essentially cause the US Government to default and then shutdown in December ... Boehner ain't gone yet.

[Rlh04d]

You, like so many idiot libs around the country (and idiots in general) have swallowed, hook line and sinker, whatever the press has told you.

I agree with you, but I also find it phenomenally irritating when conservatives continue to pretend like conservative news outlets aren't part of the press that is manipulating idiots around the country.

[WuDrWu]

I agree with you, but I also find it phenomenally irritating when conservatives continue to pretend like conservative news outlets aren't part of the press that is manipulating idiots around the country.

No argument here, but it's just 5-10 to 1.

[RoyalShock]

I agree with you, but I also find it phenomenally irritating when conservatives continue to pretend like conservative news outlets aren't part of the press that is manipulating idiots around the country.

I came across an article someone shared on facebook two or three weeks ago. It was originally shared by Herman Cain. I think the site was ConservativeVoice or something like that. The headline stated the University of Illinois denied a request by the local college Republicans to display one American flag on campus for every person killed on 9/11. The reality was that they were denied a request to stick flags down into the ground. The school has a policy about putting anything into the ground due to their irrigation system. The school even gave them alternatives for how they could do it. The article even said as much. But no, the title had to fit the narrative that the college was against displaying the American flag or against the college Republicans. I found two other "news" stories from conservative websites that reported it the same way using similarly erroneous titles.

And of course, the rank-and-file were eating it up. It's ridiculous.

[Rlh04d]

I came across an article someone shared on facebook two or three weeks ago. It was originally shared by Herman Cain. I think the site was ConservativeVoice or something like that. The headline stated the University of Illinois denied a request by the local college Republicans to display one American flag on campus for every person killed on 9/11. The reality was that they were denied a request to stick flags down into the ground. The school has a policy about putting anything into the ground due to their irrigation system. The school even gave them alternatives for how they could do it. The article even said as much. But no, the title had to fit the narrative that the college was against displaying the American flag or against the college Republicans. I found two other "news" stories from conservative websites that reported it the same way using similarly erroneous titles.

And of course, the rank-and-file were eating it up. It's ridiculous.

Great example. Everything in today's media is about feeding a narrative that people WANT to be true rather than just presenting unbiased facts and letting people come to their own conclusions.

Conservative online media sites are probably the worst about this around, and it's a large part of the machine that's guilty for creating this Trump hysteria.

Conservative ideas are entirely capable of winning in a battle of logic with educated voters -- that was thoroughly understood during Reagan's success, and seems to have been completely lost now. There is no need for the nonsense faux-outrage hysteria that gets fed to uneducated people in the idea of "conservative values," and when we don't call out the hysteria-generators for lying, we give them credibility, and then we end up with this Trump nonsense.

[MoValley John]

Conservative online media sites are probably the worst about this around

Bullshit.

I can find as many, or more, liberal sites that do far worse. I won't even need to cite daily kos or the young turks.

[wufan]

Bullshit.

I can find as many, or more, liberal sites that do far worse. I won't even need to cite daily kos or the young turks.

Agreed. The clock bomb is a good recent example. Both sides are at fault.

[Rlh04d]

Bullshit.

I can find as many, or more, liberal sites that do far worse. I won't even need to cite daily kos or the young turks.

I can probably name five ridiculous conservative sites to every one liberal one.

The "mainstream media" definitely trends a liberal bias, but crazy political websites trend conservative.

Both sides are at fault, but there are aspects of our media that are predominantly run by different groups. Talk radio trends conservative -- there is liberal talk radio, but it's a minority, and not popular.

[MoValley John]

I can probably name five ridiculous conservative sites to every one liberal one.

The "mainstream media" definitely trends a liberal bias, but crazy political websites trend conservative.

Both sides are at fault, but there are aspects of our media that are predominantly run by different groups. Talk radio trends conservative -- there is liberal talk radio, but it's a minority, and not popular.

You must have different liberal friends on facebook than I. Without even breaking a sweat, I can come up with hundreds of liberal sites that are as bad, some worse.

The conservative sites aren't the problem, the liberal sites aren't the problem, either, both are simply symptoms of a larger problem. The problem is that the media, mainstream and otherwise, strayed away from reporting the truth, or facts, a long time ago. To believe that conservative sites are worse,is simply either being duped by liberals reporting Fox news outrage, or simply not being exposed to the liberal sites. There are more than enough to go around.

[Rlh04d]

You must have different liberal friends on facebook than I. Without even breaking a sweat, I can come up with hundreds of liberal sites that are as bad, some worse.

The conservative sites aren't the problem, the liberal sites aren't the problem, either, both are simply symptoms of a larger problem. The problem is that the media, mainstream and otherwise, strayed away from reporting the truth, or facts, a long time ago. To believe that conservative sites are worse,is simply either being duped by liberals reportig Fox news outrage, or simply not neing exposed to the liberal sites. There are more than enough to go around.

I've generally unsubscribed from the news feeds of people on Facebook who regularly share one-sided political nonsense, whether conservative or liberal. So yes, I'm sure you see far more than I do.

In general I see this "both sides are equally as bad" line of thinking to be overly PC nonsense. It is unlikely there are exactly as many nonsense liberal sites as nonsense conservative sites, or vice versa. One side has more, and Facebook shares either of us have happened to see is far from an accurate measuring stick. My point isn't that conservatives are "bad;" my point is that I generally blame the liberal-bias of larger news outlets for creating an "alternate news source" trend from conservative sources as a counter-balance.

Considering neither you nor I will go to the effort of putting together a list of all of the ridiculous political websites on the internet (although it would be a very interesting exercise if we both did so with an aim towards finding an honest answer rather than "winning," but ridiculously time-consuming), I think we'll just have to agree to disagree here.

But yes, I agree with you that the overall, larger problem is the lack of truth in reporting from "legitimate" media outlets.