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  • #76
    And I say this as someone that was raised in Chicago as a social justice, Catholic Democrat.
    There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.

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    • #77
      So if Hitler would have just chopped the human beings up and disposed of them in a medically sanitary way, instead of shoving them in graves or performing experiments on their body parts, then THOSE acts of genocide would have been acceptable?
      Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Kung Wu View Post
        So if Hitler would have just chopped the human beings up and disposed of them in a medically sanitary way, instead of shoving them in graves or performing experiments on their body parts, then THOSE acts of genocide would have been acceptable?
        No.

        It would have only been acceptable had he dissected the dead into separate organs, tissues and limbs, sold those parts for human research and used the revenue from those sales to bolster his war efforts. Then, and only then, would it have been ethical.
        There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by MoValley John View Post
          We lost our way a long time ago. We lost our way when the desires of one person weighed more than another person's right to live. We lost our way when taxation became a form of social engineering, not a method in which to fund government. We lost our way when government employees were allowed to unionize. We lost our way when Corporations, not Congress, began drafting laws. We lost our way when it became necessary to practice defensive medicine. And we lost our way when people can no longer watch a video, admissable in court or not, and determine the gist of what someone is clearly saying.
          If you're reference regarding 'taxation became a form of social engineering' means using a progressive tax to redistribute income, we're both badly lost. According to Wikipedia, President Lincoln was the first to sign into a law a form of taxation that was viewed as progressive and repealed a flat tax that existed up to that time. That was in 1862.

          By the way, the rules of evidence protect everyone, because it ensures a level playing field. According to what I just read in a publication called The Hill, the individual who's foundation made these videos has already stated he will invoke his 5th amendment rights if asked to testify. That tells me that something about this whole mess smells, as he is stating that if he testifies fully and truthfully he might incriminate himself. I associate people who invoke their 5th amendment rights with organized crime and drug cartels (who obviously have something to hide), as opposed to someone who is running a religious-based nonprofit. Why would a religious person be afraid of testifying truthfully? Don't the Ten commandments contain a reproof to 'not bring false witness against your neighbor'?

          But just because the person who did all this and stirred this mess up doesn't want to testify doesn't mean that I don't want to truth to come out. Perhaps PP is in violation of the Hyde amendment. Perhaps what we saw PP officials saying during taping is correct. Perhaps the person who founded the religious foundation set up as a front (and a vehicle to film these conversations) was not honest and ethical in his submission for a non-profit charter to the IRS.

          Who knows? I don't, but that's why I would like to see it investigated.

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          • #80
            The most merciful thing that the large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it.
            There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.

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            • #81
              We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities.* The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.
              There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by MoValley John View Post
                The most merciful thing that the large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it.
                Originally posted by MoValley John View Post
                We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities.* The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.
                Call on me, Call on me! I know who said this!
                "Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but by what you should accomplish with your ability."
                -John Wooden

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by shocka khan View Post
                  Forensic experts have said they were. We are going to have to agree to disagree on this one.


                  "Fusion GPS’ research was a full analуsis of the first four, of six, videos that have been released bу the anti-abortion group. Due to the heavу editing and manipulation, the videos “have no evidentiarу value in a legal context and cannot be relied upon for anу official inquiries.”"

                  Maybe you have a point, maybe the people making the videos have a point, but their methods in elaborating and proving up their point caused the whole venture to be tainted.
                  Forensics experts claimed under oath today that the videos are: “authentic and show no evidence of manipulation or editing,”

                  A forensic analysis of undercover videos about Planned Parenthood's abortion practices are "authentic and show no evidence of manipulation or editing."


                  Cecile Richards seemed to take a different tone under oath as well. Amazing how the story changes with the threat of a perjury charge.
                  "Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but by what you should accomplish with your ability."
                  -John Wooden

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by shocka khan View Post
                    If you're reference regarding 'taxation became a form of social engineering' means using a progressive tax to redistribute income, we're both badly lost. According to Wikipedia, President Lincoln was the first to sign into a law a form of taxation that was viewed as progressive and repealed a flat tax that existed up to that time. That was in 1862.

                    By the way, the rules of evidence protect everyone, because it ensures a level playing field. According to what I just read in a publication called The Hill, the individual who's foundation made these videos has already stated he will invoke his 5th amendment rights if asked to testify. That tells me that something about this whole mess smells, as he is stating that if he testifies fully and truthfully he might incriminate himself. I associate people who invoke their 5th amendment rights with organized crime and drug cartels (who obviously have something to hide), as opposed to someone who is running a religious-based nonprofit. Why would a religious person be afraid of testifying truthfully? Don't the Ten commandments contain a reproof to 'not bring false witness against your neighbor'?

                    But just because the person who did all this and stirred this mess up doesn't want to testify doesn't mean that I don't want to truth to come out. Perhaps PP is in violation of the Hyde amendment. Perhaps what we saw PP officials saying during taping is correct. Perhaps the person who founded the religious foundation set up as a front (and a vehicle to film these conversations) was not honest and ethical in his submission for a non-profit charter to the IRS.

                    Who knows? I don't, but that's why I would like to see it investigated.
                    There is no such thing as a progressive tax. All taxes are regressive. I'm not anti-tax, we need taxes, and if the government wants to bracket taxes, fine. That said, everyone that receives an income, needs to pay taxes. The tax code should be based on generating the most revenue, not on causing class warfare and purchasing votes. The way the tax code is today, far too many people receive assistance and pay nothing. If everyone had skin in the game, even just a little skin, policy would change. People that pay zero in taxes plus benefits are going to mindlessly vote for people that will continue to give them zero taxes plus benefits. Charge those same people just a little tax, their vote is no longer bought, plus they might care when the government spends $500 on a hammer.
                    There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.

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                    • #85
                      Here's an article I read online today from Matt Walsh. He's just a blogger, if I'm not mistaken. I thought it was an interesting read though. If all of this is true, then it's getting pretty ugly.

                      "Big news happened today. Planned Parenthood testified on Capitol Hill.
                      Fittingly for an organization that murders 300 thousand children a year, it was a bloodbath. Planned Parenthood lies about literally everything, nothing they say about anything can ever be believed or taken seriously, and every point and every statement they make is either an obvious untruth or a really obvious untruth. You can only imagine, then, what happens when these people are forced to give honest answers under oath. It's like opening an overflowing garbage can after it's been sitting out in the hot sun for a week. Only, in this case the garbage can is filled with the dismembered remains of murdered infants.
                      The stench of death and lies seeps out of every Planned Parenthood clinic, so when forced for the first time in their history to actually admit to a few basic facts, the results were devastating. Or they should be devastating and they would be if we lived in a culture that possessed even the faintest affection for the truth.
                      It started badly for Cecile Richards and company when a forensic analysis earlier in the day determined that the undercover Planned Parenthood videos were not manipulated or deceptively edited at all. Even the shills Planned Parenthood hired to investigate the videos last month concluded that there was no "widespread evidence of substantive video manipulation." We've now had two forensics investigation, one paid for by Planned Parenthood, that have both confirmed the authenticity of the videos. Still, Cecil Richards breathlessly repeats the claim that the videos were "doctored" despite two separate investigations -- including her own -- explicitly stating otherwise.
                      As I said, these people lie about everything. This is the level of dishonesty we're dealing with. Total. Complete. Pathological. They could stare at a brick wall two feet from their faces and tell you it isn't there (of course, I would then insist they run into it headfirst to prove their point). As noted late term abortionist Adolf Hitler once said, if you tell a lie often enough, people will believe it. Planned Parenthood tells the same lies every day, all day, unrelentingly, and the dupes in this choose to country believe it.
                      Cecile Richards' testimony was disastrous. She was forced to sit quietly as Rep. Chaffetz outlined how Planned Parenthood -- a "non-profit" -- spends millions of dollars on lavish parties, banquets, travel, and exorbitant salaries. The head of the nation's largest abortion provider then reported that her position at this humble little charitable child killing outfit pays her over half a million dollars a year. Next, after repeatedly claiming on the record that Planned Parenthood performs mammograms, she had to admit precisely none of her 600+ clinics conduct the procedure. To be clear: this is a lie she told, a lie her supporters repeated ad nauseum, and a lie she just admitted was a lie under oath. This is a woman with no shame, but I suppose you could expect nothing less from a person who pays activists to throw condoms at presidential candidates (another worthy venture for taxpayers to fund).
                      Things only got worse for Baby Killers R Us from there. When asked if a child born after a failed abortion would be provided care, she said she'd "never heard of that circumstance happening." It was a fascinating statement considering abortion survivors just testified in front of this very same committee. I guess denying the existence of people who were just in the room was, in her estimation, a better strategy than admitting they'd let the child die right in front of them, as Planned Parenthood officials have testified in the past.
                      Later, Richards had to confirm that Planned Parenthood raked in 127 million dollars "in excess of revenue" last year, while dramatically reducing the number of "additional services" it provides. Now, I'm no economist, but I'm pretty sure "excess" revenue is the same as profit. So today we learned -- although some of us have known it for years -- that the "non-profit" tax funded Planned Parenthood actually earns over 100 million dollars of profit. Only in the nightmarish fantasy land of pro-abortion propaganda could 127 million dollars in profit equal no dollars in profit. I wonder, precisely at what point does profit become profit? Could Apple call itself non-profit by this logic? Is Microsoft a charity? Is McDonald's really nothing but a philanthropic endeavor? If a company can make nine figures in profit and still be non-profit, haven't we effectively destroyed the meaning of the term?
                      But the most significant moment came early on when Cecile Richards again confessed to being a dirty rotten liar, admitting that abortion does not account for "3 percent of their business," as she and her minions have repeatedly claimed, but in fact abortion is a full 86 percent of their non-tax funded revenue. As some of us have been saying for years, abortion is almost their entire business. Everything else is a smokescreen. A front. It's like a store that sells old VHS Disney tapes in the front and hardcore porn behind a door in the back. Everyone knows it's really a porn shop. Just like everyone knows Planned Parenthood is an abortion warehouse and nothing more.
                      Of course, none of this matters much. Planned Parenthood supporters have largely sold their souls and their brains. If you're willing to defend an organization that kills over a quarter of a million human beings every year, I wouldn't expect you to be too concerned about stupid, pesky little things like honesty and truth.
                      Regardless, we should all take notice of the fact that the entire Planned Parenthood narrative just crumbled and fell apart on live TV this afternoon.
                      Some might consider this a notable development."

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                      • #86
                        Hey! He stole my Hitler train of thought! I knew I should have copyrighted it.


                        But, man, 86%!! Are you serious?
                        Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Kung Wu View Post
                          Hey! He stole my Hitler train of thought! I knew I should have copyrighted it.


                          But, man, 86%!! Are you serious?
                          I mentioned that PP numbers were cooked a long time ago. I provided a link. That should surprise nobody. Planned Parenthood doesn't need the government money to operate, the $100 million profit they make shows as such. The government funding kickback is just that, a kickback. The dems kickback federal money to PP as a thank for PP supporting them in their campaigns.

                          The sad thing was to find out that PP doesn't provide mamograms, as has been one of their battle cries as to why we need them. That right there is as damning as anything.
                          There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.

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                          • #88
                            The above blog has too much opinion and not enough fact to be taken seriously. If you pull the facts out, and they are true (I don't doubt them) there is plenty there without the hyperbole. The "3%" of care and "86% of non-funded profit" are not necessarily both untrue, but when you have over one hundred million dollars in excess funding, plus Medicaid and Obamacare funding the other procedures, which aren't even being fully offered, they've given some good reasons to stop the funding.
                            Livin the dream

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                            • #89
                              And in the most ultimate of ironies today, I discovered that Cecile Richards is actually the daughter of Ann Richards, a man-hater (along with her significant other Molly Ivins) if there ever was one.

                              One positive note about Cecile, though, she is married.....to a union organizer for the SEIU. That ought to really twist some people on this blog.

                              Now, I think I'll sit back, enjoy my popcorn and watch on that note.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by shocka khan View Post
                                And in the most ultimate of ironies today, I discovered that Cecile Richards is actually the daughter of Ann Richards, a man-hater (along with her significant other Molly Ivins) if there ever was one.

                                One positive note about Cecile, though, she is married.....to a union organizer for the SEIU. That ought to really twist some people on this blog.

                                Now, I think I'll sit back, enjoy my popcorn and watch on that note.
                                Why would that twist anyone?
                                There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.

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