Professors harassing students

[SpanglerFan316]

Which war?

I'm a bit of a military history buff, so I'll take a shot at this. Here are a few wars.
WW1 (1914-1918)
Finnish Civil War (1918)
Latvian Liberation (1918 - 1920)
Estonian Liberation (1918 - 1920)
Russian Civil War (1918-1921)
Hungarian-Romanian War (1919)
Polish-Soviet War (1919 - 1920)
Irish War of Independence (1919-1921)
Greco-Turkish War (1919–1922)
Turkish–Armenian War (1920-1921)
Chinese Civil War (1927-1937)
Sino-Soviet War (1929)
Chaco War (1932–1935)
Abyssinian War (1935-1936)
Spanish Civil War (1936-1939)
Second Sino-Japanese War (1937-1945)
Winter War (1939-1940)
WW2 (1939-1945)

[SpanglerFan316]

There were a lot of wars from 1914 to 1945. The class sounds interesting. The fact that the student (shock) doesn't realize that this was a period when the world was being changed in many ways and that many wars were occurring suggests to me that the student may not be paying attention. For King Wu to ask "Which war" suggests that King Wu is not knowledgeable about this time in history.

Look at http://www.war-memorial.net/wars_all.asp for example.

In comparison, 1945-2013 is fairly static. The Civil War in China (1945-1949) was one change but it pales in comparison with the creation of new countries (e.g. Jordan, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia), the change in attitude by people (e.g. in France, Germany, England, Ireland, India, Australia) toward government and toward military leaders, the appeal of "socialism" (whose definition is unknown to me; everyone seems to have his or her own definition), etc.

[SpanglerFan316]

You think he's a veteran of all those wars? :)

I thought you were. :applause:

[SpanglerFan316]

I think "Professors harassing students" is a bad thing. I think "Students harassing professors" is a bad thing. I don't know the facts in this case (and I don't care that much, since I'm not involved and there are many more important (to me) problems in the world). Without knowing the facts, I find the title of the thread to be a bit prejudicial and to represent only one side of the story. Maybe this makes for more page views?

[Kung Wu]

I think "Professors harassing students" is a bad thing. I think "Students harassing professors" is a bad thing. I don't know the facts in this case (and I don't care that much, since I'm not involved and there are many more important (to me) problems in the world). Without knowing the facts, I find the title of the thread to be a bit prejudicial and to represent only one side of the story. Maybe this makes for more page views?

When is the last time you have heard of a conservative student harassing a leftist professor? And when have you heard of a conservative professor badgering leftist students? In my recollection, I have never heard of such a thing.

[SpanglerFan316]

When is the last time you have heard of a conservative student harassing a leftist professor? And when have you heard of a conservative professor badgering leftist students? In my recollection, I have never heard of such a thing.

I personally have seen harassment on one occasion. I was a student in a public speaking class when I was an undergraduate. The guy who sat next to me (in the front row) happened to be native American and was a great guy (and a good student). One day, I walked into class a bit early and this guy offered me a drink from a flask; I declined. As class went on, this guy got louder and louder and became increasingly more inappropriate as time went on. The professor finally just ended class (about 30-40 minutes early). This never happened again in that class.

This is my only experience with "harassment" and it consisted of a student harassing a professor (and disrupting a class). I am personally unaware of any occurrences in which faculty harassed students. Since we are hearing only one side of the story here, I do not count the story in this thread. I also have no idea of why the political views of the professor should affect or cause the harassment of students. I never wanted to know the political views of students or faculty when I was a student because this had nothing to do with my education.

[AndShock]

I've been lucky so far with regard to my professors. Nothing but great people at BuCo and WSU. RateMyProfessors helps reduce the chance of conflict.

[SpanglerFan316]

When is the last time you have heard of a conservative student harassing a leftist professor? And when have you heard of a conservative professor badgering leftist students? In my recollection, I have never heard of such a thing.

http://www.examiner.com/article/militant-ron-paul-supporters-harass-univ-professor-case-of-mistaken-identity

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1988-03-12/news/8804060675_1_dartmouth-review-conservative-student-newspaper-dartmouth-college

People (liberal, conservative, etc) can be jerks; they don't have to hold political views to be jerks.

[SpanglerFan316]

I've been lucky so far with regard to my professors. Nothing but great people at BuCo and WSU. RateMyProfessors helps reduce the chance of conflict.

In my opinion, basketball season can't get here too soon. We're all getting a little crazy. :)

[RoyalShock]

I personally have seen harassment on one occasion. I was a student in a public speaking class when I was an undergraduate. The guy who sat next to me (in the front row) happened to be native American and was a great guy (and a good student). One day, I walked into class a bit early and this guy offered me a drink from a flask; I declined. As class went on, this guy got louder and louder and became increasingly more inappropriate as time went on. The professor finally just ended class (about 30-40 minutes early). This never happened again in that class.

This is my only experience with "harassment" and it consisted of a student harassing a professor (and disrupting a class). I am personally unaware of any occurrences in which faculty harassed students. Since we are hearing only one side of the story here, I do not count the story in this thread. I also have no idea of why the political views of the professor should affect or cause the harassment of students. I never wanted to know the political views of students or faculty when I was a student because this had nothing to do with my education.

I have no doubt that there are professors out there who see college campuses as indoctrination centers. In their minds, education means getting students to conform to their agenda while ostracizing the non-conformists. I don't think those are the majority, but I do think there are enough that many campuses are decidedly unfriendly to conservative viewpoints and Christianity.

[SpanglerFan316]

I have no doubt that there are professors out there who see college campuses as indoctrination centers. In their minds, education means getting students to conform to their agenda while ostracizing the non-conformists. I don't think those are the majority, but I do think there are enough that many campuses are decidedly unfriendly to conservative viewpoints and Christianity.

You might be surprised at the large number of conservative faculty at WSU.

[SpanglerFan316]

I have no doubt that there are professors out there who see college campuses as indoctrination centers. In their minds, education means getting students to conform to their agenda while ostracizing the non-conformists. I don't think those are the majority, but I do think there are enough that many campuses are decidedly unfriendly to conservative viewpoints and Christianity.

I am interested; can you give some examples? Are you talking about classroom activities or non-academic activities like groups standing outside expressing their own political, cultural or religious views and getting into arguments with people who don't agree? In the later case, I see no problem with disagreements.

[RoyalShock]

I've just read so many stories and heard so many accounts over the years that I can't point you to specific instances. From students being singled out and ridiculed in front of the class to conservative/Christian groups and speakers being denied equal access. I'm guessing (yes, a guess, could be very wrong) you are more of a liberal persuasion so your radar may not be calibrated to notice these things in the news like a conservative might. I get that.

My one personal experience of what I considered indoctrination was being required to read Al Gore's Earth in the Balance for an ecology class in '91 or '92, and the professor putting it on equal footing with the textbook.

[SpanglerFan316]

I've just read so many stories and heard so many accounts over the years that I can't point you to specific instances. From students being singled out and ridiculed in front of the class to conservative/Christian groups and speakers being denied equal access. I'm guessing (yes, a guess, could be very wrong) you are more of a liberal persuasion so your radar may not be calibrated to notice these things in the news like a conservative might. I get that.

My one personal experience of what I considered indoctrination was being required to read Al Gore's Earth in the Balance for an ecology class in '91 or '92, and the professor putting it on equal footing with the textbook.

I don't think I express my political views in a sports forum like this. Politics has nothing to do with college sports, in my opinion. Is it so important to people here that their views be adopted on this board that they would be willing to splinter support for Shocker athletics over political issues? My opinion is the ShockerNet is a place where people of all political persuasions should be able to come together and root for the Shocks while leaving politics at home. Am I wrong?

[Kung Wu]

http://www.examiner.com/article/mili...taken-identity

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1988-03-12/news/8804060675_1_dartmouth-review-conservative-student-newspaper-dartmouth-college

People (liberal, conservative, etc) can be jerks; they don't have to hold political views to be jerks.

Libertarians and an article from 1988? That's my point, you are having to dig deep to find this stuff.