Mitch McConnell Done?

[Atxshoxfan]

Mitch is irresponsible, his family is irresponsible, his assistants are irresponsible, the people of Kentucky are irresponsible for voting him in again just 2 + years ago, the GOP leadership is irresponsible for continuing to vote him as their Senate leader, and the swamp needs to be drained, completely.

Better get used to it. Unless term limits are put in place, we will see these life time politicians hold seats as long as they have a heartbeat and can be strapped to a chair.
The states that vote these sick folks into office are either uninformed voters, idiots or just like the power that the individual has to bring money to their state.

It's really sad what idiotic, uninformed voters are doing to this country.

[Kung Wu]

Caught a video of him on vacation several years ago ...

[Shockm]

Would term limits solve all of these problems? These health problems can happen to a 65 or even 60 year old too.

[Shockm]

Mitch is irresponsible, his family is irresponsible, his assistants are irresponsible, the people of Kentucky are irresponsible for voting him in again just 2 + years ago, the GOP leadership is irresponsible for continuing to vote him as their Senate leader, and the swamp needs to be drained, completely.

Did this health problem happen because he’s a part of the Washington swamp?

[Shockm]

Did this health problem happen because he’s a part of the Washington swamp?

The answer is No. However, most states allow the Governor to choose a Congressional or Senatorial successor if they step down. In Kentucky, Andy Beshear is the Democrat Governor.

However, McConnell and Kentucky Republicans evidently foresaw this medical situation happening so in 2021, they changed Kentucky law to allow an Exit strategy. The (D) Gov. Vetoed the law but the Republicans overrode his veto. Mc Connell has made a list of people to succeed him as Kentucky Senator and complete his 6 year old term. His top choice is the Kentucky AG (R) Daniel Cameron, followed by the Kentucky Sec. Of State (R). MM named several others on his list of successors also. I would think that pressure will begin to build on McConnell to step down.

https://theintercept.com/2021/03/04/...nator-replace/

[Kung Wu]

Did this health problem happen because he’s a part of the Washington swamp?

Maybe this will help ya: Logic For Dummies Cheat Sheet

[Shockm]

Maybe this will help ya: Logic For Dummies Cheat Sheet

FU you arrogant *****.
The problem is that this problem isn’t age. Term limits isn’t going to solve it. Trump is practically the same age as Biden, and McConnell. There are several politicians who are very “fit”. Trying to find a legal means of actually solving this isn’t going to be easy, and you have no solutions. Nobody on here does.

[Downtown Shocker Brown]

FU you arrogant *****.
The problem is that this problem isn’t age. Term limits isn’t going to solve it. Trump is practically the same age as Biden, and McConnell. There are several politicians who are very “fit”. Trying to find a legal means of actually solving this isn’t going to be easy, and you have no solutions. Nobody on here does.

I disagree.

[WuDrWu]

Term limits will solve a lot of these problems, and a bunch of unrelated problems as well.

[SHOCKvalue]

FU you arrogant *****.
The problem is that this problem isn’t age. Term limits isn’t going to solve it. Trump is practically the same age as Biden, and McConnell. There are several politicians who are very “fit”. Trying to find a legal means of actually solving this isn’t going to be easy, and you have no solutions. Nobody on here does.

What? Term limits wouldn’t eliminate elected officials in their 70’s and 80’s from the public display of rapid health decline? Are there a lot of folks new to politicking at the federal level who start down that path at those ages minus four or eight years? The obvious answer is no, right? They’re an elected official in their 70’s or 80’s because they got there when they were in their 40’s, 50’s or sometimes 60’s and the “public service” nest and all that comes with it was just a little too damn cozy.

And unequivocally yes, this sort of thing is far more likely to happen in the 70’s or 80’s than in the 60’s. There’s an entire well-paying career field dedicated to the probabilities of this sort of stuff. They’re called actuaries. It’s why a life insurance policy on a 20 y/o is practically free but one for a 75 or 80 y/o is nearly unobtainable.

This feels like a very dumb conversation.

[Atxshoxfan]

Would term limits solve all of these problems? These health problems can happen to a 65 or even 60 year old too.

If term limits had been in place years ago, McConnell, feinstein, pelosi and Biden, would not be where they are today.

And your right. Even young folks can suffer from mental issues. I give you senator Lurch in his hoody and shorts. It's not about age, it's about brain functions. In some folks it hits them earlier than others. I've got a 93 YO mother in law that's sharp as a tack.

[Kung Wu]

FU you arrogant *****.
The problem is that this problem isn’t age. Term limits isn’t going to solve it. Trump is practically the same age as Biden, and McConnell. There are several politicians who are very “fit”. Trying to find a legal means of actually solving this isn’t going to be easy, and you have no solutions. Nobody on here does.

Sorry man but you are an argumentative cuss, so I came at you with a sledgehammer to get you to reconsider your post. It didn't work.

[Shockm]

How many of you just want something to be, so it should be. I would be for term limits, but my whole point is that term limits may not be legal, the same as age limits.

McConnell is an easy case to agree on, as is Joe Biden, and Dianne Feinstein. However, Charles Grassley is 90 years old, is as sharp as a tack, works as hard as anyone. He gets up at 4 AM and runs two miles every day. Depending on who runs against Grassley, he likely would be the best candidate. Any law would have to be crafted perfectly, and imo, there would have to be bi partisan agreement on this issue. Bi-partisanship is almost an impossibility to have. I would like to hear from some lawyers but it would probably take a Constitutional Amendment, to make it air tight so the courts wouldn't vote it down.

It just takes one elderly person with a solid mind to make a strong argument and stop a law.

[WuDrWu]

Yeah, I don't think anyone here thinks we should try anything BUT a CA.

I refuse to believe it wouldn't pass.

I think it would breeze by the needed 38 states. But we should at least TRY.

And yeah, Chuck Grassley is a solid Senator, but that's part of the issue. There's no one else in Iowa who can do a great job for the people of Iowa? That's beyond arrogant. And I'm not blaming Chuck per se for being arrogant. But we have lots of good, honest, hard working people that can do the job. You just need 2 per state for Senators and 1 to 50 for Congress. If anyone thinks we can't find those folks, then I would argue that you're part of the problem.


I would LOVE to see a candidate run on these issues. Vivek is kind of there.


Secure the southern border AND reform immigration FINALLY. We need immigration, make it work.

Reform Social Security. I know it's a supposed dead topic. It IS going to fail. Again, we CAN make it work, somehow. No changes for anyone over say, 30. But younger than that things are going to have to be adjusted. Maybe it's anyone over 18. There are options. Ignoring it isn't one of those options. And the wealthy aren't going to be exempt. You can look at raising the maximum pay for deductions (it's at 160k now) and lower payments for those top level, still working types (and it won't make much difference but it should placate the libs). Again, there are options and ignoring the problem isn't one.

Constitutional Amendment for term limits for Congress and the Senate. My choice would be 4 terms and 2 Senate, but I'm open to discussion.

Move DC out of DC. It's 2023. You don't have to "be" there anymore. Relocate every (or at least some) departments out of DC and drain that cesspool. Start with Immigration and Naturalization and ICE. They can be in Brownsville. CDC in Los Angeles ( I know they are in Atlanta, but I'm talking generally, and everything out of DC). HUD in Chicago. No state gets more than 1. Who could POSSIBLY be against that who doesn't live in DC?

Dismantle unions for government employees. It's a double dip. Like welfare, it probably can't be eliminated, but we should try. It's dead wrong.

Limits on federal government positions. You can't have taxpayers supporting jobs and benefits and pensions that pay more of everything than the private sector commands. 8 years, 10, 12 SOMETHING to keep folks from being part of the swamp.


There are others, but that would be a GREAT start, for me at least.

[Kung Wu]

How many of you just want something to be, so it should be. I would be for term limits, but my whole point is that term limits may not be legal, the same as age limits.

McConnell is an easy case to agree on, as is Joe Biden, and Dianne Feinstein. However, Charles Grassley is 90 years old, is as sharp as a tack, works as hard as anyone. He gets up at 4 AM and runs two miles every day. Depending on who runs against Grassley, he likely would be the best candidate. Any law would have to be crafted perfectly, and imo, there would have to be bi partisan agreement on this issue. Bi-partisanship is almost an impossibility to have. I would like to hear from some lawyers but it would probably take a Constitutional Amendment, to make it air tight so the courts wouldn't vote it down.

It just takes one elderly person with a solid mind to make a strong argument and stop a law.

One???

There are MANY 32 year olds with enough life experience and self-discipline to run this country just fine. But there is a law that says you have to be 35 to be President of the United States. According to you our Founders blew it because it only takes ONE guy under the age of 35 for that law to not have been made???

It's never been about "hey look there is ONE guy that can buck the trend". It's about RISK to the United States of America. The RISK of a 32 year-old succumbing to pressure and temptation or making knee-jerk decisions while being a President is just too great. It's unnecessary to inflict that risk upon our society. On the other end of the spectrum we now see all too clearly that an 80 year old with a severely declined state of mental health has put the United States at severe RISK in many ways. It's unnecessary to inflict THAT risk on society.