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  • #76
    Originally posted by ShockerFever View Post

    Why did it tank in the 2Q? Wasn't it because the country went into an essential lockdown for 2 months? I thought that's what every left-leaner wanted? What did you think was gonna happen?
    You're looking at one specific quarter and taking my comment "tank" out of context. I'm intending to infer that our economy tanked, is tanking, and will continue to tank because of a protracted battle with a virus that other countries essentially subdued quickly with a top-down approach. Trump just told everybody to fend for themselves while he broke wind and trolled on Twitter.

    I don't know what the left-leaners wanted; I'm saying we should have reacted swiftly and honestly and snuffed the majority of this out very early. That could have happened had Trump decided to put the country on alert and "go to war" instead of pretending that this virus didn't exist. He chose the wrong strategy and his science advisors begged him to listen. So the end result (the economy tanking) which he desperately wanted to avoid, was not avoided and we got an out-of-control community spread to boot.

    Fail, fail, and epic fail.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by ShockerFever View Post

      Do you really believe the Chinese numbers? Do you really believe the virus just magically "disappeared"? It's either that or the virus is being blown out of proportion by every US health agency.
      I do believe that China's effort, compared to ours, was a slam dunk, hole-in-one.

      I have no idea if they have totally eradicated the virus, but people are moving freely, are back to work, and their economy is booming.

      Part of their success is due to a strict adherence to masking. Granted, they've been masking heavily (with good supply) for years due to pollution so they did have that inherent advantage.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded View Post

        I do believe that China's effort, compared to ours, was a slam dunk, hole-in-one.

        I have no idea if they have totally eradicated the virus, but people are moving freely, are back to work, and their economy is booming.

        Part of their success is due to a strict adherence to masking. Granted, they've been masking heavily (with good supply) for years due to pollution so they did have that inherent advantage.
        If the virus isn't totally eradicated, then where is it at and why isn't is spreading if everything is back to "normal" there and everything is booming? How come it exploded so quickly under the same conditions back in January with 1 person being infected to now absolutely nothing and a trickling of cases here and there? It doesn't add up.

        And that's again assuming you believe the China mathematics. But why would China ever lie about anything? They're a good upfront country. The would never try to twist anything up or cover up anything.
        Deuces Valley.
        ... No really, deuces.
        ________________
        "Enjoy the ride."

        - a smart man

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        • #79
          Originally posted by ShockerFever View Post

          If the virus isn't totally eradicated, then where is it at and why isn't is spreading if everything is back to "normal" there and everything is booming? How come it exploded so quickly under the same conditions back in January with 1 person being infected to now absolutely nothing and a trickling of cases here and there? It doesn't add up.

          And that's again assuming you believe the China mathematics. But why would China ever lie about anything? They're a good upfront country. The would never try to twist anything up or cover up anything.
          It's being aggressively pursued via contract tracing. No 4x4 jacked up pickups zooming around with maskless idiots screaming 'Murica and 'M'Freedom as they head to the bar.

          They snuffed it out quickly because they used the most draconian measures known to mankind. I don't think those measures were needed to have a significantly improved effect over what we experienced. But we needed to go a whole lot more "China" and a whole lot less "America" from the very beginning.

          Read back on how America acted during the World Wars. Many of our freedoms were suspended in order for us to prevail and not end up a territory of Imperialist Japan or Nazi Germany. We are/were/ fighting a war just as serious if you take into consideration all the economic implications.

          Our citizenry could have handled a serious nationwide lockdown for 6 weeks and then mandatory masks until the vaccine. Yes, books would be written about the rights that were lost during those "6 weeks of hell". But if I could take those same chest thumpers and put them in a time machine and give them the reality that we all face today, they would close their whiny, entitled traps with the quickness. 8 ****ing months of ****ed up life. At least that's my perspective and 10's of millions of others. And we aren't near finished with this **** show yet.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by BOBB View Post

            I accept much of your premise. Do you accept that after having the economy choked down in a Toobinesque grip that two monkeys ****ing a football would generate economic growth after the release?
            Cue the “two monkeys ****ing a football” gif...
            "You Just Want to Slap The #### Outta Some People"

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            • #81
              Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded View Post

              I do believe that China's effort, compared to ours, was a slam dunk, hole-in-one.

              I have no idea if they have totally eradicated the virus, but people are moving freely, are back to work, and their economy is booming.

              Part of their success is due to a strict adherence to masking. Granted, they've been masking heavily (with good supply) for years due to pollution so they did have that inherent advantage.
              They welded people into their home.
              Livin the dream

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              • #82
                Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded View Post



                He chose the wrong strategy and his science advisors begged him to listen. So the end result (the economy tanking) which he desperately wanted to avoid, was not avoided and we got an out-of-control community spread to boot.

                Fail, fail, and epic fail.
                Are you intentionally spreading bulls*** or just plain ignorant? I'll give you the credit of doubt and presume you're just spreading bulls*** because you're still pissed that Trump whipped that nasty succubus Hillary, in which case is understandable that'd you'd still be bitter. I would be too if I wanted that lying, cheating, thieving whore to win... Good thing that I didn't because I'm much smarter than that ; D


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                • #83
                  Originally posted by BOBB View Post

                  Up from its 2Q tank job. You're like a gambler that steps into the casino with a $1000, goes down to $250, hits a heater at the craps table to get back to $600 and walks out feeling like a winner!
                  Hi boob. Thanks for the highbrow analogy, but not everyone hates the President of the United States and conversely not everyone likes diden, ok? Don't believe cnn. You're welcome.

                  Now, according to a recent Gallup poll the majority of Americans think they're better off than they were 4 years ago. I believe me and you discussed this a while back, no? The poll was taken towards the end of the 3rd quarter and consisted of 29% Republican, 30% Democrat and 40% Independent voters. It speaks for itself:


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                  Hate to tell you, but as of right now the markets ain't dead yet and If you're claiming the markets rise in the 3rd quarter is fools gold then you've never heard the addage "people vote with their wallets." That's just plain reality in the what-have-you-done-for-me-lately marketplace. In 2016 the people rejected the 'new normal' ideology via the weapon of the ballot-box because they're smart, and will do so again.

                  Most people believe that the hypocritical and morally superior progressives' can take that 'new normal' and shove it up their a**. Not referring to you of course, because we know you're not morally superior to anyone... ; D
                  Last edited by ShockingButTrue; October 21, 2020, 05:20 PM.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by ShockingButTrue View Post

                    Are you intentionally spreading bulls*** or just plain ignorant? I'll give you the credit of doubt and presume you're just spreading bulls*** because you're still pissed that Trump whipped that nasty succubus Hillary, in which case is understandable that'd you'd still be bitter. I would be too if I wanted that lying, cheating, thieving whore to win... Good thing that I didn't because I'm much smarter than that ; D


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                    If Hillary is a lying, cheating, whore... what does that make Bill?

                    And the soundbite on Fauci is laughable. I guarantee you 1,000,000,000,000%, that if you sat down and had a beer with Fauci, he would call Trump the biggest ****ing mental case he's ever met in his entire professional career (and that includes patients).

                    P.S. You're sounding more and more unhinged. You need to prepare yourself for a big letdown in a couple weeks. It's over friend.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by ShockingButTrue View Post

                      Hi boob. Thanks for the highbrow analogy, but not everyone hates the President of the United States and conversely not everyone likes diden, ok? Don't believe cnn. You're welcome.

                      Now, according to a recent Gallup poll the majority of Americans think they're better off than they were 4 years ago. I believe me and you discussed this a while back, no? The poll was taken towards the end of the 3rd quarter and consisted of 29% Republican, 30% Democrat and 40% Independent voters. It speaks for itself:


                      Gallup.png

                      Hate to tell you, but as of right now the markets ain't dead yet and If you're claiming the markets rise in the 3rd quarter is fools gold then you've never heard the addage "people vote with their wallets." That's just plain reality in the what-have-you-done-for-me-lately marketplace. In 2016 the people rejected the 'new normal' ideology via the weapon of the ballot-box because they're smart, and will do so again.

                      Most people believe that the hypocritical and morally superior progressives' can take that 'new normal' and shove it up their a**. Not referring to you of course, because we know you're not morally superior to anyone... ; D
                      I have recently let you yell at the clouds, but I'll bite here.

                      A)
                      1. I am not a progressive, nor woke.
                      2. I am a liberal in the sense that the government has a role to play in economic and social outcomes.

                      B)
                      I was better off in 2009 than 2008 and so on through 2019. 2020 I am happy to report I am standing still. So I am part of your majority (56%). I will not be voting for Trump. I'm willing to take a haircut on my income and portfolio to live in a first world country. The polls say there are quite a few like me.

                      C)
                      With the arrest of "Cathead" in the Whipple case, I was surprised to see you still posting. Were you able to smuggle your phone into County? I won't ask how. As a friendly gesture I'll add $20 to your commissary account.
                      Wichita State, home of the All-Americans.

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                      • #86

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                        God***n Traitors! ; D

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by BOBB View Post

                          I have recently let you yell at the clouds, but I'll bite here.

                          A)
                          1. I am not a progressive, nor woke.
                          2. I am a liberal in the sense that the government has a role to play in economic and social outcomes.

                          B)
                          I was better off in 2009 than 2008 and so on through 2019. 2020 I am happy to report I am standing still. So I am part of your majority (56%). I will not be voting for Trump. I'm willing to take a haircut on my income and portfolio to live in a first world country. The polls say there are quite a few like me.

                          C)
                          With the arrest of "Cathead" in the Whipple case, I was surprised to see you still posting. Were you able to smuggle your phone into County? I won't ask how. As a friendly gesture I'll add $20 to your commissary account.
                          Got news for you. If Hiden Joe wins it won't be a 1st world country for long.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by BOBB View Post

                            I have recently let you yell at the clouds, but I'll bite here.

                            A)
                            1. I am not a progressive, nor woke.
                            2. I am a liberal in the sense that the government has a role to play in economic and social outcomes.

                            B)
                            I was better off in 2009 than 2008 and so on through 2019. 2020 I am happy to report I am standing still. So I am part of your majority (56%). I will not be voting for Trump. I'm willing to take a haircut on my income and portfolio to live in a first world country. The polls say there are quite a few like me.

                            C)
                            With the arrest of "Cathead" in the Whipple case, I was surprised to see you still posting. Were you able to smuggle your phone into County? I won't ask how. As a friendly gesture I'll add $20 to your commissary account.
                            So Bob, why don’t you just give money to charity? Is government the only institution that can solve social issues? Do they just need more money to be successful?
                            Livin the dream

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                            • #89
                              More lies from The Big Guy. Corrupt as the day is long. Biden Inc. has cashed in on the backs of the American people for way too long.

                              Tony Bobulinski, who was listed as the recipient of an email published by the New York Post that appeared to detail a business arrangement involving a Chinese company and members of the Biden family, has confirmed that the email is "genuine" and provided more information regarding the Bidens' role in the deal.


                              Tony Bobulinski, who was listed as the recipient of an email published by the New York Post that appeared to detail a business arrangement involving a Chinese company and members of the Biden family, has confirmed that the email is "genuine" and provided more information regarding the Bidens' role in the deal.
                              Bobulinski said he is the CEO of Sinohawk Holdings, which he explained "was a partnership between the Chinese operating through CEFC/Chairman Ye and the Biden family." He said he was brought on as CEO by Hunter Biden and James Gilliar, who was listed as the sender of the email.

                              Bobulinski went on to say he does not believe Joe Biden's past claim that he and Hunter did not discuss his son Hunter's business, claiming that Hunter "frequently referenced asking him for his sign-off or advice on various potential deals."

                              "I’ve seen Vice President Biden saying he never talked to Hunter about his business. I’ve seen firsthand that that’s not true, because it wasn’t just Hunter’s business, they said they were putting the Biden family name and its legacy on the line," Bobulinski said.
                              "The Biden family aggressively leveraged the Biden family name to make millions of dollars from foreign entities even though some were from communist controlled China," he added.

                              Bobulinksi also said that he believes that the Chinese involvement in the deal was "political or influence investment" on their part, and that "Hunter wanted to use the company as his personal piggy bank by just taking money out of it as soon as it came from the Chinese."

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                              • #90
                                Poll that correctly predicted Trump victory in 2016 predicting another Trump victory. Polls largely missing the hidden Trump vote.



                                Trafalgar Group chief pollster Robert Cahaly told Fox News host Sean Hannity on Tuesday night he sees President Trump being reelected, citing a "hidden vote" Cahaly says is predominantly missing from polling showing Democratic nominee Joe Biden leading nationally and in most swing states.

                                Trafalgar Group's polling in 2016 showed Trump leading in key battleground states including Pennsylvania and Michigan when almost all other pollsters had the Republican nominee trailing Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton. Trump ended up wining both of those states and Wisconsin, becoming the first GOP presidential nominee to do so in decades.

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