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  • Originally posted by BOBB View Post

    ****, I'll bite. Top rate in the mid to low 40's, treat all income the same (wages, rents, capital gains, etc...). I'd eliminate corporate taxes altogether to boot.
    That's why BOBB is a good liberal. More like him/her please.

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    • Originally posted by revenge_of_shocka_khan View Post

      I'm surprised he took this long. His final gift to everyone, him and B#tch crash the economy because he is a sore loser and B#tch is a compliant butt-kisser. The final death rattle from the worst president ever. Y'all know he wouldn't be doing this if he didn't know he was going to lose. If he thought he could win, he'd be firing up the printing presses.

      Ironically, I make too much to get the free stuff, but too little to get much benefit from those budget-busting tax cuts, but I'm happy anyway (I don't need free stuff). Hope most of the rest of you benefited IF you needed the help.

      I will ask the question again.....given that the major airlines are now in the process of shedding tens of thousands of jobs, what is your take on the impact of the local economy, given its dependence on commercial aviation? I'm thinking further contraction of capital budgets and more layoffs from local companies, but how much?
      Yeah, but many were saying he really wanted to lose the election in '16. Remember?

      Can you share with us some of the proposals from the dems most recent stimulus draft?

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      • Originally posted by ShockerPrez View Post
        I don't really mind a tax increase, however, I would like for there to be some reasoning and legit mathematical research to go along with it, included in that a definite plan to balance the budget. My biggest problem with all of it, is that spending is never addressed. I understand that social security and medicare is a huge part of that and there is very little they say can be done to lower those costs. But it would be nice if someone would at least try. There is absolutely zero stomach to even broach that subject because the first one to do it, can just kiss their ass goodbye politically.

        The best cure for the deficit (assuming that spending could ever get reigned in) would be to just set the tax policy and let it be. The best cure for the deficit is a growing economy along with spending brakes. But the problem is that it constantly changes all the time and businesses can't adjust to the new rules every other year. If the rules don't change and we have stability, people will adjust accordingly and prosper, but policy needs to remain steady.
        This is SO good. But the absolute BEST cure for the deficit is TERM LIMITS.

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        • Originally posted by WuDrWu View Post

          This is SO good. But the absolute BEST cure for the deficit is TERM LIMITS.
          I think that is the most common sense -ahem- re-imagining anyone, anywhere, could possibly hope for. It would eliminate pork and cut our nation's problems in half, at minimum, I'm convinced. Ain't. Gonna'. Happen.

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          • Originally posted by revenge_of_shocka_khan View Post

            Given Trump's track record, why would you think anything different would happen? 26 women have filed complaints against him. That's even more than Bill Clinton and that's a fact.

            Trump said horrible things about latin people (I would like to see what you think about this) "...some of them are rapists, some of them are murders.....", horrible things about people from Africa (the $h#thole comment), horrible things about white supremacists "...and some were very good people."

            So, Trump has made his own mess that he's lying in.

            By the way, and if you work for a fairly large company, what does your employer think about a 'typical' employee making these kinds of comments in exercising their official duties? Do you think they might be subject to disciplinary action, up to and including termination for making these comments? What do you think would happen to you if you did that (note, I had a co-worker about 15 years ago who asked a Vietnamese immigrant we worked with if she'd ever eaten cat. He got sent to sensitivity training for that stunt).

            Not only that, what your employer do if you started groping and making unwanted sexual advances to women on your staff? Again, I would be sympathetic if there were, say, the number of cases I could count on one hand. This is all your hands and toes with items left over.

            Note I got confronted by my g/f's relatives in Mexico about those comments because I was dumb enough to vote for Trump in 2016. I don't think most Latinx's did not appreciate those remarks.

            Complaining about MSM's treatment of Trump is akin to raising a red herring. If there wasn't so much evidence out there regards his boorish behavior, I might agree, but sinde the evidence is overwhelming, just about the only thing that would change the optics would be a brain transplant or a religious conversion (the third would be a firing). Guess what is about to happen?
            Thanks, I didn't know that MSM role was to point out boorish behavior. They sure passed over a lot from both Clintons. I am not a a Trump fan. But to ignore the bias is very telling. There is no news only commentary, I don't know where to go for news so I scan a out 5 or 6 different sources. Neither of these guys belong in the Oval Office.

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            • Originally posted by ShockerPrez View Post
              I don't really mind a tax increase, however, I would like for there to be some reasoning and legit mathematical research to go along with it, included in that a definite plan to balance the budget. My biggest problem with all of it, is that spending is never addressed. I understand that social security and medicare is a huge part of that and there is very little they say can be done to lower those costs. But it would be nice if someone would at least try. There is absolutely zero stomach to even broach that subject because the first one to do it, can just kiss their ass goodbye politically.

              The best cure for the deficit (assuming that spending could ever get reigned in) would be to just set the tax policy and let it be. The best cure for the deficit is a growing economy along with spending brakes. But the problem is that it constantly changes all the time and businesses can't adjust to the new rules every other year. If the rules don't change and we have stability, people will adjust accordingly and prosper, but policy needs to remain steady.
              So I'm going to go all Alan Colmes on everyone and say I believe in Keynses' concept of a cyclically balanced budget. Trump's tax cuts never should have happened, they were excessive and the timing was wrong.

              Then came the pandemic and now we are racking up huge budget deficits to try to stimulate the economy. That is exactly why there needs to be an adjustment. Our stimulus spending has hugely increased the deficit we have (and the tax cuts did not help either).

              In other words, we splurged when things were good, not realizing something bad could happen (and it did). Now we are stuck with the consequences. I'd like to see deficits cut. I'm not sure we can get rid of them, but they are way too high right now.

              We should have been saving for that rainy day and we did not.

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              • While I agree with what you are saying, there is no incentive for politicians to save for a rainy day. Why save when I can spend it and help myself get reelected. The Social Security "lockbox" showed us that.

                That is why I think the best way to balance the budget is not to give politicians more things to spend money on but less.

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                • Back to the topic at hand, an infected Trump wants to debate in person...
                  Wichita State, home of the All-Americans.

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                  • Originally posted by BOBB View Post
                    Back to the topic at hand, an infected Trump wants to debate in person...
                    I think he'd be past the "infected" stage on October 15?

                    I was with a 'small' group of people last night (6). One of them had been "infected" about 10 days prior and was released by his doctor. We all stayed at least 6' 1" apart. Guess time will tell.



                    "You Just Want to Slap The #### Outta Some People"

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                    • Originally posted by BOBB View Post
                      Back to the topic at hand, an infected Trump wants to debate in person...
                      Won’t it be 14 days by then?
                      Deuces Valley.
                      ... No really, deuces.
                      ________________
                      "Enjoy the ride."

                      - a smart man

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                      • Originally posted by ShockerFever View Post

                        Won’t it be 14 days by then?
                        Yes, and besides that, he has had several negative tests already. Hiden is jumping for joy I am sure. No way that senile old fart wanted any piece of Trump again, virtually or not.

                        Plus, I don't blame Trump for not wanting a virtual debate. You think Hiden was able to cheat in the in-person debate? Just wait to see what he could do virtually.

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                        • Originally posted by BOBB View Post
                          Back to the topic at hand, an infected Trump wants to debate in person...
                          Only if he tests negative, brainiac. Only throwing out half truths, one might think your employed in the MSM.

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                          • Originally posted by BOBB View Post
                            Back to the topic at hand, an infected Trump wants to debate in person...
                            If he is actively infected, it shouldn’t happen. If he is cleared, then this is a non-issue.
                            Livin the dream

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                            • He can be around people 10 days after positive test. So that would be on the 12th. This is a non (non political) issue. But nothing is non political these days.

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                              • Originally posted by jdmee View Post
                                https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...isolation.html

                                He can be around people 10 days after positive test. So that would be on the 12th. This is a non (non political) issue. But nothing is non political these days.
                                10 days after being symptom free and off medication according to CDC.
                                Wichita State, home of the All-Americans.

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