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  • Originally posted by ShockTalk View Post

    Yup. That's the far left whispering in his ear (or just flat out telling him). That's why I'd take that "do nothing" instead.
    He will eventually cave in to them just like plastic pelosi did. He’s weak.

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    • My goodness, I saw a photo of Joe Biden in a mask and he looks like Tom Hanks at the end of "Philadelphia." I saw a pic of Donald Trump in a mask and he looks like Captain America..........

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      • Originally posted by pinstripers View Post

        he's adopted virtually all of Bernie's agenda
        He's trying to downplay that he is going to rid us of carbon energy and stop fracking, etc. He now says he won't do that until 2035. I don't trust him on any of it, and the working man, and middle class will pay the price.

        All we have to do is look at all of the money thrown at Solyndra just 5 years ago or so, and you can see where he will go to keep his base happy. He will stop natural gas and other forms of energy that the U.S. has thrived on and become the leader of the world in the past 4 years or so, and kept us from needing the Middle East and move to unproven forms of energy as soon as possible and won't care if it is ready or not to be used. That will drive up the cost of energy, and make us subservient to the Middle East, and Russia once again.

        His new base lead by AOC (and Bernie's squad) will demand the change and won't care if it is good policy or not. They just want to win even at the expense of American interests and the American people.

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        • Originally posted by Shockm View Post

          He's trying to downplay that he is going to rid us of carbon energy and stop fracking, etc. He now says he won't do that until 2035. I don't trust him on any of it, and the working man, and middle class will pay the price.

          All we have to do is look at all of the money thrown at Solyndra just 5 years ago or so, and you can see where he will go to keep his base happy. He will stop natural gas and other forms of energy that the U.S. has thrived on and become the leader of the world in the past 4 years or so, and kept us from needing the Middle East and move to unproven forms of energy as soon as possible and won't care if it is ready or not to be used. That will drive up the cost of energy, and make us subservient to the Middle East, and Russia once again.

          His new base lead by AOC (and Bernie's squad) will demand the change and won't care if it is good policy or not. They just want to win even at the expense of American interests and the American people.
          He says we will be at zero emissions by 2035, but doesn’t say how to get there. One way would be to drastically cut our energy usage. This would require rolling blackouts and gasoline rationing. A second way to get there would be to replace fossil fuel based power with low density (solar panels and wind mills) energy or high density (nuclear) energy sources. For the replacement strategy, we would need to build one new nuclear power plant every two weeks or one new windmill every hour. A Third option would be to invent a scaled up version of carbon capture.

          CO2 emissions are highest from wood, then coal, petroleum, natural gas. Natural gas is mostly from fracking, and he wants to eliminate this and not replace with nuclear. No one is serious about being carbon neutral until they scale up nuclear.
          Livin the dream

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          • Biden mentioned infrastructure a time or two yesterday. Who dem jobs going to?

            Trump has some -ahem- exploitable weaknesses for sure, but man, there's an election for a reason, and the dems are doing their part to build the Incumbents' debate platform.

            These #nevertrumpers might be dumber now than they were 2016, all the while telling you they're smarter than you, still...

            "Hey Joe: China, friend or foe?" 'China is an important City.' Hard to believe, but there are actual voters out there who ask our President "what you gonna do to stop this virus?" and don't even mention china.

            When's the first debate?
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            • Silent majority is strong!

              https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...rump-vote-poll

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              • Originally posted by Walker View Post
                He certainly hasn’t been perfect and I would agree that he’s at fault with people on his task force, and then complaining about the people he gives the job to. As far as the rally’s, I personally didn’t have a problem with them especially when it became okay for BLM and antifa to burn our cities down.
                So we're gonna invoke the old, "Why does he get to do it mommy??" clause? I get it.

                Well, I do not subscribe to such. I believe we should have a much higher standard of logic, common sense, and accountability than a group of foolish, white, Snowflakes.

                Originally posted by Walker View Post
                We have empirical evidence to show us that this isn’t the Black Plague scenario we were told was going to happen. We’ve had what, just over 2,000 cases in Sedgwick county with 28 deaths? A problem yes, but hardly a doomsday scenario. With the videos of officials and supposed experts stating that they’re labeling deaths COVID even when the cause of death wasn’t due to the virus, the deceased just happened to test positive. We also know healthcare facilities have financial incentive to claim this.
                Pretty convinced this isn't that serious eh? Italy, Spain, France, UK, Iran, Brazil, NYC, NJ,... now India and Africa are surging. Not to mention we are the world leader in infections with a substantial boost in deaths just around the corner.

                Do you know what cures the Black Plague btw? Plain old antibiotics. The reason it was so deadly is because it spread throughout a primitive civilization. How did they stop it? Social distancing.

                If the Bubonic Plague is a steamroller, Covid-19 is a Ferrari.

                Originally posted by Walker View Post
                I think the left knows they are completely screwed with their senile-pedo candidate, so we’re going to keep getting a dose of manufactured tensions plus more shutdowns. I think they’re banking on manipulation to kill people’s spirits. This is game plan for them from here on out until November. Don’t you think it’s possibly the public is being manipulated a bit?
                The polls don't indicate they are screwed with the pedo. Everybody is being manipulated all the time. It's the responsibility of each citizen to use rational thinking skills to see through the mist. Admittedly, few people have sufficient clarity and that's why we are in the shape we are in. Most people don't actually read and digest the "news", they skim the headlines and then run screaming down the street. We need more critical thinking on the part of our citizenry and less laziness and reliance on each respective political party's talking heads for understanding. Sean Hannity is JUST as bad at propagandizing as is Rachel 'The Mad Cow' Maddow.


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                • https://www.foxnews.com/us/michigan-...bbing-shooting

                  Michigan dispute over wearing coronavirus mask inside convenience store leads to stabbing, fatal shooting

                  https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9617361.html

                  Man in MAGA hat flashes his gun when asked to follow his state's mask order


                  Armed customer intimidated staff at RJ’s Bob-Be-Que Shack

                  I gotta admit... my thoughts turn to a few in this forum when I read articles such as this. :(


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                  • Originally posted by BOBB View Post
                    I'm willing to consider that Trump will be reelected. For my family, personally, no big deal. In my opinion, four more years of decreased stature in the world, environmental degradation, likely a hot war with Iran or China due to a miscalculation and few allies. All survivable. Probably end up with a sharp overcorrection to the left in 2024. Nevertheless, I'll accept the outcome and move on.

                    Can the Trumpers say the same if Joe wins?
                    Nope. They will remember this last 4 years and will want their pound of flesh. There will be calls for Ukrainian collusion and corruption investigations almost immediately. It is the new normal of politics in our time. Sad, but that how I see it.

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                    • Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded View Post

                      So we're gonna invoke the old, "Why does he get to do it mommy??" clause? I get it.

                      Well, I do not subscribe to such. I believe we should have a much higher standard of logic, common sense, and accountability than a group of foolish, white, Snowflakes.



                      Pretty convinced this isn't that serious eh? Italy, Spain, France, UK, Iran, Brazil, NYC, NJ,... now India and Africa are surging. Not to mention we are the world leader in infections with a substantial boost in deaths just around the corner.

                      Do you know what cures the Black Plague btw? Plain old antibiotics. The reason it was so deadly is because it spread throughout a primitive civilization. How did they stop it? Social distancing.

                      If the Bubonic Plague is a steamroller, Covid-19 is a Ferrari.



                      The polls don't indicate they are screwed with the pedo. Everybody is being manipulated all the time. It's the responsibility of each citizen to use rational thinking skills to see through the mist. Admittedly, few people have sufficient clarity and that's why we are in the shape we are in. Most people don't actually read and digest the "news", they skim the headlines and then run screaming down the street. We need more critical thinking on the part of our citizenry and less laziness and reliance on each respective political party's talking heads for understanding. Sean Hannity is JUST as bad at propagandizing as is Rachel 'The Mad Cow' Maddow.


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                      All you ever mention to show why you are a Biden supporter is Covid. If that is all you vote on, you will be extremely unhappy if your candidate would win, and we become, or move dramatically closer to a Socialist country. The results will not only include job losses. A tepid France economy where a huge majority of the citizenry will be on the government dole (we already have quite a lot but it will get more) beginning at the age of 54, and the government pays for all medical bills will be the best possible result. Venezuela would also be a possibility at some point.

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                      • Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded View Post
                        https://www.foxnews.com/us/michigan-...bbing-shooting




                        https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9617361.html




                        I gotta admit... my thoughts turn to a few in this forum when I read articles such as this. :(


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                        I wonder if the guy wasn't wearing a MAGA hat if it would've even hit the news cycle.
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                        • Originally posted by Shockm View Post

                          All you ever mention to show why you are a Biden supporter is Covid. If that is all you vote on, you will be extremely unhappy if your candidate would win, and we become, or move dramatically closer to a Socialist country. The results will not only include job losses. A tepid France economy where a huge majority of the citizenry will be on the government dole (we already have quite a lot but it will get more) beginning at the age of 54, and the government pays for all medical bills will be the best possible result. Venezuela would also be a possibility at some point.
                          Yep.

                          Obliteration of the natural gas industry

                          Flood gates open for illegal immigrants (during a pandemic no less)

                          Free education and healthcare for illegal immigrants

                          Automatic welfare for illegal immigrants

                          Extreme left ideals with respect to defunding law enforcement and climate

                          Dramatically declining stock market and economic trends,

                          Exploding national deficit, lawlessness, bankrupt morals, welcome to your Biden presidency...

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                          • Originally posted by ShockerFever View Post

                            I wonder if the guy wasn't wearing a MAGA hat if it would've even hit the news cycle.
                            Not a chance.

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                            • Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded View Post
                              Pretty convinced this isn't that serious eh? Italy, Spain, France, UK, Iran, Brazil, NYC, NJ,... now India and Africa are surging. Not to mention we are the world leader in infections with a substantial boost in deaths just around the corner.

                              The polls don't indicate they are screwed with the pedo. Everybody is being manipulated all the time. It's the responsibility of each citizen to use rational thinking skills to see through the mist. Admittedly, few people have sufficient clarity and that's why we are in the shape we are in. Most people don't actually read and digest the "news", they skim the headlines and then run screaming down the street. We need more critical thinking on the part of our citizenry and less laziness and reliance on each respective political party's talking heads for understanding. Sean Hannity is JUST as bad at propagandizing as is Rachel 'The Mad Cow' Maddow.

                              If Europe, the Middle East, South America and the East Coast can't figure this Bat Flu out, why do you expect your President to be able to? Do you understand?

                              But aren't you glad your President enacted new guidelines to have all patient information concerning the Bat Flu be sent to a database in DC? Hopefully that will assist in alleviating all of the questions concerning accurate ICU capacity, et. al. It'll also help the federal government in the allocation of much-needed federal assistance, and supplies. No? Your President is jumping right in there, you gotta admit.

                              Because cold said: "Polls are not propaganda (paraphrase)." What next, your President's a vile racist? Oh, wait...


                              #BlameFoxNews

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                              • True American and a true patriot.

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