Former governor Milliken backs away from McCain

[rrshock]

rr, there is a difference between saying something is immoral and being intolerant. As a Christian, I believe that the bible says homosexuality is wrong, yet I am not intolerant of homosexuals.
Why can't liberals figure out that there IS a difference between condemnation of ones action and "intolerance"? If the liberal logic were true, then Christian republicans would be intolerant of the entire world since we are all sinners.

I'm not saying you're not tolerant, but the way that many come off, they are intolerant. People in my area get talked about all the time if they smoke, drink, blah blah blah. They are intolerant of who they consider sinners. I'm not saying the whole Republican party is like that, but the ones I'm surrounded by sure are. If you aren't one of them, then they don't like you say you're a sinner and all that BS. At least that's how they come off to me.

I don't know you are hanging around with or surrounded by but this Republican:

1. Watches Desperate Housewives and The Ellen Show and laughs at her because she's funny;
2. Drinks beer;
3. Smokes an occasional cigar;
4. Has ancestors and cousins living in a country we are not on the best of terms with;
5. Had many black and Hispanic friends while growing up (still do);
6. Has worked two and sometimes three jobs the last twenty years;
7. Cusses more than I should.

I think I would typify more Republicans on this board than not. :whistle:

I don't doubt for a second that you are right, but there seems to be alot of the more "radical" republicans around where I live, so that usually is the picture that I get painted of them. I'm not trying to make anyone mad, but what I described is how many of them around me are.

That pretty much describes me too. But the Republicans in my particular area have turned me away from that party. I think this may shed light on why I feel the way I do about Republicans.

[RoyalShock]

All due respect, rr, but you've said many things about the people around you, and I get the distinct impression that you are turned off by how they practice their religion. And they just happen to be Republicans.

Read the comments on some of the stories from left-wing websites that have been linked here. The amount of pure hate and intolerance of anyone who isn't as "progressive" as they are is downright scary. I read a bunch today that lambast Sarah Palin as a hypocrite because she is pro-life, but hunts animals. This from the same people who are OK with abortion but want to save the animals.

[C0|dB|00ded]

No question there is a TON of racism in the republican party. There is a ton of anti-Christianity in the democratic party. Republicans are tolerant of wealth; democrats aren't (even though many in their leadership are very wealthy). If you're gay or a minority you better be a democrat. If you are Christian you better be a republican. If you are a pacifist you ought to be a democrat. If you like to blow everybody up you probably would be best served as a republican.


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[rayc]

What a warped view of both parties.

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I did see a great comment in one of the articles I read today -- if I could remember which one I'd link to it --

Do you know why the Ten Commandments can not be displayed in courthouses?

Because posting "Thou shall not steal", "Thou shall not commit adultry" and "Thou shall not lie" in a facility full of lawyers, judges and politicans creates a hostile work environment.

[double dribble]

I am always amused at how easily libs throw around the "racist" label. In reality, I would bet that 90% of them don't even know the definition of the word "racist".
Prejudice and even hatred of another race, as wrong as it is, still does not make you a racist.
Racism is the belief that another race is "genetically" inferior.

[C0|dB|00ded]

I am always amused at how easily libs throw around the "racist" label. In reality, I would bet that 90% of them don't even know the definition of the word "racist".
Prejudice and even hatred of another race, as wrong as it is, still does not make you a racist.
Racism is the belief that another race is "genetically" inferior.

I'm pretty sure that the gool ol' "conservative" sittin' next to me throwin' N-bombs around like Easter eggs would qualify his hatred to include genetic aspects as well if pushed... :roll:

Any good racist who throws the N-bomb usually follows that up with a reference to monkeys or baboons.


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[rayc]

You sure seem to hang out around strange people.

None of the conservative, moderate or liberal friends of mine are anything like you describe. I think you've been spending to much time studing the talking points you try to pass off as fact, hopefully you don't actually believe them.

[Ixiah]

I am always amused at how easily libs throw around the "racist" label. In reality, I would bet that 90% of them don't even know the definition of the word "racist".
Prejudice and even hatred of another race, as wrong as it is, still does not make you a racist.
Racism is the belief that another race is "genetically" inferior.

I actually hate pointing this out DD but please see item #2 :whistle:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racist

[C0|dB|00ded]

You sure seem to hang out around strange people.

None of the conservative, moderate or liberal friends of mine are anything like you describe. I think you've been spending to much time studing the talking points you try to pass off as fact, hopefully you don't actually believe them.

Hi! Have you ever spent even a second in the Midwest? Conservatism and racism goes hand in hand. Stop acting naive (or maybe you aren't acting).


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[rayc]

I lived over 20 years in the midwest, I've also lived in the south, southwest, west and the caribbean. I've seen racism everywhere I've been, but not to the degree you claim.

Probably the worst (most prevalent) racism I've seen has been in the west(from liberals) and the south(from conservatives). Most of the racists I've known were Democrats, not conservative Republicans. You seem to labor under the opinion that anyone living outside of the big city is a rube and thus a bigotted conservative Republican - you are very, very wrong. Just another stereotype from your talking points I assume, or perhaps just limited exposure to people across the country.

The absolute worst examples of overt racism (excluding black racists, a term Dem's seem to consider an oxymoron) I've seen have been in rural Florida, and my friend, those folks are predominantly Democrats. And even that overt racism is rare, not nearly as prevalant as you seem to want to believe. But then again maybe everyone has just been concealing it from me all these years.

Perhaps your experiences are different, I don't know, I can only speak from mine.

[SubGod22]

I've only been around a couple people I'd consider racist and they were far from Conservative Republicans.

[Maggie]

You sure seem to hang out around strange people.

None of the conservative, moderate or liberal friends of mine are anything like you describe. I think you've been spending to much time studing the talking points you try to pass off as fact, hopefully you don't actually believe them.

Hi! Have you ever spent even a second in the Midwest? Conservatism and racism goes hand in hand. Stop acting naive (or maybe you aren't acting).


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This is the about the most ridiculous assertion I have ever read. Conservatism above all else is about individual liberty – that is hardly racist.

Besides, if you want to throw stones, I have spent the last 13 years in NYC and much to my initial surprise (and disgust) I heard more racist statements here than I did in 20 plus years in Wichita. And these people are registered Democrats and self described Liberals (or Progressives – however, they want to be classified). Notwithstanding, I would never go so far as to state that liberalism and racism go hand in hand.

[Denny Crane]

Where would Louie Farrakhan fit in this mix?

[RoyalShock]

Where would Louie Farrakhan fit in this mix?

He's a prophet in the cult of Obama.

[C0|dB|00ded]

You sure seem to hang out around strange people.

None of the conservative, moderate or liberal friends of mine are anything like you describe. I think you've been spending to much time studing the talking points you try to pass off as fact, hopefully you don't actually believe them.

Hi! Have you ever spent even a second in the Midwest? Conservatism and racism goes hand in hand. Stop acting naive (or maybe you aren't acting).


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This is the about the most ridiculous assertion I have ever read. Conservatism above all else is about individual liberty – that is hardly racist.

Besides, if you want to throw stones, I have spent the last 13 years in NYC and much to my initial surprise (and disgust) I heard more racist statements here than I did in 20 plus years in Wichita. And these people are registered Democrats and self described Liberals (or Progressives – however, they want to be classified). Notwithstanding, I would never go so far as to state that liberalism and racism go hand in hand.

You hard-line guys will really drag your schtick to the edge of the cliff wont you?...

99.99% of blacks are democratic yet you want to try and pass this party off as having more racism?

99.99% of red-neck, gun-toting, anti-government racists are republican (or carry extremely conservative views).

Sure, you can see racism in NYC just like you can in Kansas but talk is one thing and tolerance is another.

I don't like throwing around generalizations too often but some of you guys trying to cover up the fact that repubs are loaded with racists are just blind. Take a look at a map of blue versus red states. All the really hardcore, historically racial problem areas are red.

I have an extended family member that married a guy from out east. He worships everything the republican machine feeds him. Rush Limbaugh this, Rush Limbaugh that (a guy that was fired from the NFL for making racist remarks and routinely mocks blacks on his show)... He is a big-time gun collector and thinks that the Iraq invasion was a great idea! He also hates "N..*.

Do you think the KKK would ever endorse a democrat? What party best fits those crazy separatists that live in the mountains of inbred America and horde weapons and ammunition just waiting for a confrontation with the government? Do you think they want big government or small governement? Racists see the government as a friend to the minority and it absolutely drives them wild.

Historically it can be shown that repubs were actually the friend of the minority but that was a long, long time ago. Now the racist hides in the republican party espousing the evils of big government, welfare, affirmative action, etc. etc.

Hey, I've been a republican my whole life and my ENTIRE family is staunch republican. It's not that republicans are evil, it's just that the goals of the republican party align nicely with racists.

It's no secret that education and racism are inversely related. A vast majority of professors across America are liberal democrats. Now this generalization is really going to piss you hard-liners off... I'm going to make a comparison between the state of New York and the state of Mississippi. One state has 27.4% of their citizens college educated, the other, 16.9%. One is a blue state, one is a red state. One state is known as an absolute hot-bed for racial activity. I'll let all you smart folks figure the rest out...

"white powu"!!1111


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