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Debate #1: Obama vs McCain
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Doomed as doomed could be! If only we could take the high points of each into the perfect President Frankenstein.
Honestly, I feel Obama showed stronger than I thought on foreign policy and COMPLETELY missed, a mean to say a total whiff on the economy (not policy, knowledge, or theory but polish).
JM won. BO showed little "killer" attitude. McCain came off as a know it all, a surprise, not in a good way. I can't wait for the next episode!
I could go on and on but I have another glass and a half to finish so here goes "The Spin Cycle!"
The true winner Kansan Jim Leher, the man takes his job so seriously that because of his moderation of the "sanctioned" debates DOESN'T VOTE!!!!
Regardless of your candidate VOTE! Having been in Iraq when they voted, I mean honestly voted their conscious on a FULL slate of candidates for the first election I can say my small participation in a sentence in a world history book gives me pride. It's not about exploits in combat but a minor role in a peoples right to self-determination.
More arduous debates to come! VOTE!!!!.“Losers Average Losers.” ― Paul Tudor Jones
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Originally posted by WuDrWuJohn McCain referred to his opponent as Senator Obama.
Senator Obama referred to his opponent as John about 100 times.
I'd start calling him Barak Hussain from now on.
Prack.“Losers Average Losers.” ― Paul Tudor Jones
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I did find that to be a little disrespectful in my book. They're by no means friends and I don't think Obama should have addressed him as such.Infinity Art Glass - Fantastic local artist and Shocker fan
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Originally posted by newshock1234mccain come off to me as a grumpy old *****
Question is that person McCain? I don't know, but I sure know it's not Obama after his acting performance last night.
With that said, SN poll is running along the same lines as other national polls. Which means big, big problems for McCain. A draw for Obama is a win for Obama. Unless Obama makes a big mistake the race is over.
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A few things that scare me about Obama from this debate:
1) He is way too fixated on taxes. I'm more concerned about disciplined spending and when specifically asked what he would cut (now that the bailout is looming) he couldn't come up with one single thing.
2) His insistent lie that 95% will receive tax cuts. Well answer me this - if only 60% pay taxes then how can 95% receive a tax cut?
3) His concern about our global image. Sorry, we need to do what's right in the best interests of the American people and let the chips fall where they may. I sure as hell hope he's not worrying about how France or Germany will perceive us when contemplating foreign affairs matters.
4) He wants to sit down with rogue dictators w/o preconditions and thinks this is what Kissinger would do.
5) Tipping his hand about firing across the Pakistani border. What he's saying I agree with 100% but as McCain said you don't come out and say that on public record - just do it.
And these are just the first things that come to mind.
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Thought they both did a good job. Did think McCain not looking at Obama a bit odd. Obama address ing McCain as John didnt come across as disrespectful. The only ones who said that was the McCain camp grasping at straws.I have come here to chew bubblegum and kickass ... and I'm all out of bubblegum.
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Originally posted by BostonWu2) His insistent lie that 95% will receive tax cuts. Well answer me this - if only 60% pay taxes then how can 95% receive a tax cut?
A $1000 "Making Work Pay" Tax Credit. For 95 percent of workers and their families—150 million workers overall—the "Making Work Pay" credit will provide a refundable tax cut of $500 for workers or $1000 for working couples. This credit will benefit over 15 million self employed workers and for 10 million low-income Americans, will completely eliminate their federal income taxes.
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Originally posted by BostonWu4) He wants to sit down with rogue dictators w/o preconditions and thinks this is what Kissinger would do.
Dr. Kissinger was live and in person yesterday on tv and 100% refuted this "Obama fact".
More Obama lies.
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Originally posted by kcshocker11Thought they both did a good job. Did think McCain not looking at Obama a bit odd. Obama address ing McCain as John didnt come across as disrespectful. The only ones who said that was the McCain camp grasping at straws.
Can you even IMAGINE President Bush saying..."Al...Al!" Or Senator Kerry...."George....George!"
This isn't under the table Chicago back room politics. This counts and we have officially entered the deep end without floaties.
This is 1976 all over again......If you do not learn from the past you are doomed to repeat it.
The main difference is that there is an organized force in the world trying to do everything they can to destroy our way of life and some Americans think voting this rube into the most powerful post in the world is going to change their opinion and everyone will love us.
God help us.
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