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Mass shooting is a bullsshit term. The vast majority, the very vast majority of "mass shootings" are gang drivebys with a specific target or intent.There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.
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Originally posted by MoValley John View PostStockpiling weapons= intent.
Bringing multiple weapons, including bombs, to the party= intent.
Changing into body armor and bringing an additional shooter, not employed by your employer= intent.
Communicating with known terror organizations= intent.
Pretty cut and dry.Last edited by Rlh04d; December 6, 2015, 05:46 PM.Originally posted by BleacherReportFred VanVleet on Shockers' 3-Pt Shooting Confidence -- ' Honestly, I just tell these guys to let their nuts hang.'
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Originally posted by MoValley John View PostMass shooting is a bullsshit term. The vast majority, the very vast majority of "mass shootings" are gang drivebys with a specific target or intent.Originally posted by BleacherReportFred VanVleet on Shockers' 3-Pt Shooting Confidence -- ' Honestly, I just tell these guys to let their nuts hang.'
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Originally posted by Rlh04d View PostHonest question: Did you actually read my posts?
Workplace violence shouldn't even be a consideration.There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.
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Originally posted by MoValley John View PostYeah, I read it. You are saying they were terrorists, but you are also clouding what happened by using the Obama "workplace violence" explaination. All indications are that there was nothing that occurred at the party to set this guy off. He went to the party, staked it out, left, picked up his wife, dropped off the kid, changed into body armor, grabbed guns, bullets and bombs, and went and shot up an easy target. He booby trapped his house and filmed it to document his terrorist activity.
Workplace violence shouldn't even be a consideration.
The only difference in our points here is that I am wondering if THIS was actually the event they planned for. If you think it is, then fine, we're mildly disagreeing on that point. Not enough to make your "this is all bullshit" response rational, though. The only part where we disagree is that I'm not convinced they planned for this event specifically. They clearly were planning for something else -- so the only question is whether they planned for BOTH, because they were definitely planning on ANOTHER. Dying at that party was never part of their plan.
Do you disagree that they were planning a further terrorist attack?Originally posted by BleacherReportFred VanVleet on Shockers' 3-Pt Shooting Confidence -- ' Honestly, I just tell these guys to let their nuts hang.'
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Originally posted by Rlh04d View PostAs best I can tell, not one of the incidents I used to make my point included gang activity.There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.
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Originally posted by Rlh04d View PostMy hypothesis, in every post I made on this subject, was that they were clearly terrorists motivated by extreme Muslim agendas. I'm not sure where you think there's a connection to President Obama's explanation there. In literally every post I called them terrorists.
The only difference in our points here is that I am wondering if THIS was actually the event they planned for. If you think it is, then fine, we're mildly disagreeing on that point. Not enough to make your "this is all bullshit" response rational, though. The only part where we disagree is that I'm not convinced they planned for this event specifically. They clearly were planning for something else -- so the only question is whether they planned for BOTH, because they were definitely planning on ANOTHER. Dying at that party was never part of their plan.
Do you disagree that they were planning a further terrorist attack?There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.
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Originally posted by MoValley John View PostI was posting a point. It had nothing to do with anything you posted. It carried over from a point I tried to make on the politics forum. I don't know why, when I didn't quote you, you thought the post was about you.
Number of times the phrase "mass shooting" was used in this thread by me: 3.
That's a weak deflection.Originally posted by BleacherReportFred VanVleet on Shockers' 3-Pt Shooting Confidence -- ' Honestly, I just tell these guys to let their nuts hang.'
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Originally posted by MoValley John View PostI think they were planning several different targets, it's what terrorists do. They found an easy, unguarded target, with lots of people, and took it. Knocking out a lot of people, even at a stadium, is very difficult. Making multiple strikes is even more difficult. Having a bunch of people at a banquet is easy. They took the easy target.
And there we are.
You haven't said a thing that has proved anything I said wrong. You're welcome to your OPINION that they weren't planning further attacks.Originally posted by BleacherReportFred VanVleet on Shockers' 3-Pt Shooting Confidence -- ' Honestly, I just tell these guys to let their nuts hang.'
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Originally posted by Rlh04d View PostAnd I disagree.
And there we are.
You haven't said a thing that has proved anything I said wrong. You're welcome to your OPINION that they weren't planning further attacks.There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.
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As far as terrorists go, I was at my wife's "holiday" party tonight. She works with a few more than 5,000 close friends. Their party was at the Durham Museum in Omaha. The difference between this party and the one in San Bernadino was the armed security at the entrance and the hidden security stationed in the party. No long guns, no terrorists, no workplace violence rook place. Of any shenanigans were attemp5ed, they would have been snuffed out.There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.
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No terrorists, no workplace violence shooters. Amazing how a few armed police officers at the entrance to the old Union Station can make you feel safe as ****.Last edited by MoValley John; December 7, 2015, 02:50 AM.There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.
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20151206_200040.jpg the chocolate fountains, white chocolate, milk chocolate and dark chocolate were delicious. And even though there were a few thousand people there, plus, there are always a few digruntled employees, no workplace violence.There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.
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