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Correct and then there is 4. State welfare cash programs that often allow you to withdraw cash for any purpose. However since they are state funds, so be it.Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille! -
Correct.Originally posted by Aargh View PostKung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!Comment
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Well u can't make them feel bad about their circumstances. They need to have the same self esteem and rights as any other person who gets a paycheckOriginally posted by Aargh View PostComment
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Well one expert that has a led a 20 year study on cannabis completely disagrees about the safety of marijuana:
More details here:
Some interesting quotes:
Last night Professor Hall, a professor of addiction policy at King's College London, dismissed the views of those who say that cannabis is harmless.'If cannabis is not addictive then neither is heroin or alcohol,' he said.
'It is often harder to get people who are dependent on cannabis through withdrawal than for heroin – we just don't know how to do it.'But his main finding is that regular use, especially among teenagers, leads to long-term mental health problems and addiction.
Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!Comment
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Moderation, my boy. Moderation. I'd imagine if someone did something over and over and over regardless of if it had addictive chemical additives, it is habit forming and that in itself becomes an "addiction." I'm sure there are people who are addicted to ShockerNet. Moderation is key for everything in life. But yes, the dangers of addiction with Marijuana needed to weighed, discussed, and presented to people if it becomes legal.Comment
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Originally posted by _kai_ View Post
Okay, the mental health question of the day is: What would be considered moderation regarding smoking dope?Moderation, my boy. Moderation. I'd imagine if someone did something over and over and over regardless of if it had addictive chemical additives, it is habit forming and that in itself becomes an "addiction."Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!Comment
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Well did they define what habitual dope use was in that article? What did they define as habitual? Also, comparatively to beer, would you consider someone a habitual beer drinker if they had a beer or two an evening but never got drunk off it? Is it frequency or is it volume? I dunno, I think they definitely need to study the effects more, and I'm pretty sure they are with government studies.Originally posted by Kung Wu View Post
Okay, the mental health question of the day is: What would be considered moderation regarding smoking dope?Comment
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I tend to want to know who pays for studies. I don't tend to believe either the "pot is evil" studies or the "pot is harmless" studies.
The pharmaceutical industry produces a vast array of extremely addictive substances that are regularly prescribed by doctors. When I was being treated for cancer, I was probably prescribed a dozen different drugs that are virtually impossible to quit once your body is accustomed to having the drug present.
Pharmaaceutical companies are also very good at funding research that incorrectly shows their drugs are safe to be prescribed by doctors. Daytime television is virtually funded by ads for drugs and ads for lawyers filing class action suits against the pharmaceuticals for doing flawed safety studies and getting FDA approval to release drugs that do horrible things to people taking them. Anybody remember Fen fen - the miracle diet pill that killed people.
Studies of pharmaceuticals are done by "independent" labs. Those labs funding is based on doing ongoing research on the effects of pharmaceuticals. The pharmaceutical companies are free to choose the "independent" lab that does their studies. Pharmaceutical labs are only "independent" because they are not part of the corporation that makes the products they test.
If you believe your prescribed drugs are safe and free from any side effects other than those listed on the label, you probably believe the political ads candidates from both parties are running right now. The deception is at similar levels.
Here's a personal example. I got all the warnings, lectures, and side effects explanations from my doctors before I started my chemo. I had to sign waivers stating I understood and accepted the risks. Not once did destroying all my bone marrow and totally destroying my immune system get mentioned. My research while I was being treated indicated that would happen, so I asked my doctor. He nonchalantly said (basically), "Oh, yeah, your bone marrow has all been dead for a while now. You have no immune system, so be careful around sick people". The chemo drugs I was getting weren't labeled as destroying bone marrow, because that wasn't discovered during the testing phase. The doctors knew that happened, but they aren't supposed to tell you things that aren't on the FDA-approved label, since that informtion is just anecdotal.The future's so bright - I gotta wear shades.
We like to cut down nets and get sized for championship rings.Comment
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Hahah, I dunno. I don't have questions, just answers. I didn't read the original research, but a 20 year study is no joke. I should go get the actual study.Originally posted by _kai_ View PostKung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!Comment
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Sure, but in this case this is a Professor of Addictions at King's College London in England. And it has a sweet crest:Originally posted by Aargh View Post
So it must be good!
[kidding aside, it is a very well respected university]Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!Comment
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This board has a little bit of confirmation bias when it comes to studies.Comment
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You just don't want to accept the facts that Marijuana legalization may be wrong for our society. Here is another story that goes against your assumed narrative that deals mostly with adults abuse of the drug. There are definitely studies about the consequences about what happens when youth begin using marijuana. The younger the worse for them and where legalization is, there are more abuses by youth using marijuana even if it is illegal for them to do so. But facts are a difficult thing to accept.
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I like this strategy :)Originally posted by shockmonster View Post
What I think = fact
If you disagree, you = wrong
(posts O'Reilly clip as irrefutable proof of broad point)Comment
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