Did you Get the COVID Vaccine

[ShockerDropOut]

Vaccinated with Moderna. Pfizer booster.

[wufan]

I've been vaxxed and I will go for an antibody test next month. If it's low, I will visit with my doctor about booster vs antibodies like Regeneron that show strong results for as long or longer then make the decision which way to go.

And mandates are wrong.

The antibodies are only effective in an acute case. If you have Covid, you need antibodies.

B cell and T cell immunity should last for years which will kick your antibodies into overdrive if you do get infected.

[Eric]

Not giving you advice, but if you have had Covid and a single dose of vaccination, you will not benefit from a second dose. There are many journal articles to that point: https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acsnano.1c03972



Since you get no benefit, the risk of vax side effects like myocarditis may/should become a greater consideration.

[Eric]

Thanks, but the advice I’m getting comes from a pretty reputable source. I will be getting boosted 90 days after recovery. The rewards far outweigh the risks. (And nowhere did I state I have had just a single dose)

[wufan]

Thanks, but the advice I’m getting comes from a pretty reputable source. I will be getting boosted 90 days after recovery. The rewards far outweigh the risks. (And nowhere did I state I have had just a single dose)

You should do your research and take seriously the advise of your doctor. If you do those two things, then no matter your decision, it was the right one.

[Eric]

You should do your research and take seriously the advise of your doctor. If you do those two things, then no matter your decision, it was the right one.

Exactly. My research comes from my family physician, my cardiologist, and a brother-in-law who has spent a large portion of his career working on MRNA technology and is the chairman of the biology department of a west coast university. It would be fair to say my research is reasonably sound.

[Kung Wu]

Exactly. My research comes from my family physician, my cardiologist, and a brother-in-law who has spent a large portion of his career working on MRNA technology and is the chairman of the biology department of a west coast university. It would be fair to say my research is reasonably sound.

Would you be willing to ask them for research that contradicts that a second, third dose and so-on will benefit a person with a prior infection plus one vax? If there is research supporting that, I cannot find it, and I have looked. I spent time trying to find a contradiction to the research I have found, due to the open-ended question of boosting in recovered people.

And I am not being a smart-ass or argumentative -- I don't care one bit what you choose to do personally, or why. I genuinely want to know why a scientist or doctor would hold this opinion and would assume it's based on research they have read. I just want that source.

Here is an often-cited study out of Penn that demonstrates one is the best recovered people can do ...

In SARS-CoV-2 recovered individuals, antibody and memory B cell responses were significantly boosted after the first vaccine dose; however, there was no increase in circulating antibodies, neutralizing titers, or antigen-specific memory B cells after the second dose.

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... and another ...

Although the antibody titers of the vaccinees without preexisting immunity increased by a factor of 3 after the second vaccine dose, no increase in antibody titers was observed in the
Covid-19 survivors who received the second vaccine dose.

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... and another ...

Single-dose vaccination after infection achieves similar levels of S1 RBD binding antibodies to two doses in naïve vaccinated individuals and second-dose vaccination in one-dose vaccinated postinfection individuals offers no additional enhancement (22).

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And there are more, of course. But so far I can't find one that indicates that multiple injections help in any way for recovered folks.

And that gives me pause due to plenty of people out there unnecessarily having negative side-effects from multiple doses without receiving any benefit.

[ShockerFever]

Cold down 28-4 and has surprisingly gone silent.

He just can't take his L's like a man. Just a puss with all talk when it comes down to it.

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Exactly. My research comes from my family physician, my cardiologist, and a brother-in-law who has spent a large portion of his career working on MRNA technology and is the chairman of the biology department of a west coast university. It would be fair to say my research is reasonably sound.

As you and I have discussed privately long ago, it's a waste of time trying to talk science with these turkeys. Cov/Vaxidiotism is as much a mental disease as Covid-19 is a vascular/respiratory one.

It was interesting to interact w/ the hive mind for a while, probing and guiding to see if inroads could be made. But alas, it's a political sunk cost that is just too heavy of a burden for them to lay down. I'm thankful to have been fortunate enough to have a factory installed ego-overriding logic mechanism, preventing me from suffering the same fate.

[ShockerFever]

Thanks for airing all of that out, “non-ego” person lol.

It’s funny watching a person, such as this one, that complains about political bias as his reasoning for discord when he has more political bias than anyone here. CNN/MSM really got ahold of this one rather easily and pretty quickly. And that’s why the world is the way it is now. Easily duped MSM drones constantly fed the same material over and over without one ounce of original thought or logic.

But he at least learned one thing with this thread. Notice in his butthurt tirade that he no longer used the term “anti-vax”. He finally smartened up from that embarrassing misfire.

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Vaccinated with Pfizer. Moderna booster.

You're a smart man. Samesies.

But I think you might be spending too much on bicycles. ;)

[Rocky Mountain Shock]

Would you be willing to ask them for research that contradicts that a second, third dose and so-on will benefit a person with a prior infection plus one vax? If there is research supporting that, I cannot find it, and I have looked. I spent time trying to find a contradiction to the research I have found, due to the open-ended question of boosting in recovered people.

And I am not being a smart-ass or argumentative -- I don't care one bit what you choose to do personally, or why. I genuinely want to know why a scientist or doctor would hold this opinion and would assume it's based on research they have read. I just want that source.

Here is an often-cited study out of Penn that demonstrates one is the best recovered people can do ...

[source]

... and another ...

[source]

... and another ...

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And there are more, of course. But so far I can't find one that indicates that multiple injections help in any way for recovered folks.

And that gives me pause due to plenty of people out there unnecessarily having negative side-effects from multiple doses without receiving any benefit.

My line of work requires working with clients and often providing them advice. I think asking honest questions of advice givers is important and it is welcome. The best clients are the ones who ask questions--especially hard ones--because they want to understand.

At the same time, I have learned everything can be argued, practically nothing is certain, experts are almost always right, and we are never as smart as we think we are on subjects in which we are not educated or experienced. The last couple of years have demonstrated to me just how stunningly accurate the Dunning-Kruger effect actually is.

[Shockm]

My line of work requires working with clients and often providing them advice. I think asking honest questions of advice givers is important and it is welcome. The best clients are the ones who ask questions--especially hard ones--because they want to understand.

At the same time, I have learned everything can be argued, practically nothing is certain, experts are almost always right, and we are never as smart as we think we are on subjects in which we are not educated or experienced. The last couple of years have demonstrated to me just how stunningly accurate the Dunning-Kruger effect actually is.

I agree with you mostly. But what if the CDC experts hide important information that we need to have.

https://sharylattkisson.com/2021/10/cdc-hiding-the-number-of-naturally-immune-to-covid-19/

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My line of work requires working with clients and often providing them advice. I think asking honest questions of advice givers is important and it is welcome. The best clients are the ones who ask questions--especially hard ones--because they want to understand.

At the same time, I have learned everything can be argued, practically nothing is certain, experts are almost always right, and we are never as smart as we think we are on subjects in which we are not educated or experienced. The last couple of years have demonstrated to me just how stunningly accurate the Dunning-Kruger effect actually is.

"experts are almost always right"

Who would have thunk..?

Excellent post my man. Your head is in the right place to make good decisions in life. Conspiratorial thinking is the opioid of the masses. Eliminating just that one flaw puts you ahead of a multitude (including most of the Fox News viewers).

It's one thing to have access to the data, and another to understand it. But the money is earned in knowing how to use it and act in a way that yields the best result.

If it was just about the data, we'd all by doctors, lawyers, and engineers thanks to Google.

One smart post on Shockernet makes up for a dump truck full of lazy babble. *sigh*

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I agree with you mostly. But what if the CDC experts hide important information that we need to have.

https://sharylattkisson.com/2021/10/...e-to-covid-19/

You need to grow up and start thinking like an adult. Let RMS be your example.

...and drop the anti-vax schtick.