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  • Loyalty doesn’t exist by either party—employee or employer. Employees want what they feel they are worth. Employers want to keep labor costs as low as possible. This is true anywhere you go. I think Hill is being overpaid, more power to him though getting that money.

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    • Seems like pretty good compensation with a 1st (29th), 2nd (5oth), 4th round and then 4th and 6th in 2023.

      The year Mahomes was drafted, the no. 2 and 3 in value so far in their career was 30th pick (T.J. Watt) and Alvin Kamara (3rd round pick). In 2016 the best players so far was a 4th and 5th round (Prescott, Hill). Draft is crapshoot, but Chiefs seem to be pretty good scouting department. They also free up cap space to fill some holes.

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      • Originally posted by Maizerunner08 View Post
        Loyalty doesn’t exist by either party—employee or employer. Employees want what they feel they are worth. Employers want to keep labor costs as low as possible. This is true anywhere you go. I think Hill is being overpaid, more power to him though getting that money.
        In most cases; I agree

        However, no other team wanted to draft him. Everyone in the media and NFL was ready to burn him at the steak when more accusations came out.

        The Chiefs took a chance on him. The Chiefs stood by him during his rough times. The Chiefs developed him into a true WR, not just a return specialist and gadget guy.

        KC made Tyreek into the player that he is. I don’t know if that happens, if he was with any other organization.

        I congratulate him on his contract. I hope he will be smart with his generational wealth.

        I won’t wish him any injury or illness, but I don’t have to wish him any playing success either.
        The Assman

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        • Tyreek and Waddle are now the fastest pair of WRs ever. And Tua can't throw deep.

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          • Originally posted by SubGod22 View Post
            As far as MNF goes, Buck and Aikman pretty much guarantee I will only watch the Manning's broadcast. I can't think of a worse duo in the booth. Aikman might be more tolerable if he wasn't next to Buck, who just makes everything unwatchable.
            An added bonus is not having to listen to Buck during the World Series :)
            Not responsible for damage from posts that sail over the reader's head.

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            • The Jets never offered a first round pick for Hill, much less a top ten pick. Tyreek wanted paid at the very top level at his position. Good for him. KC wasn't going to hamstring their future for him. Good for them. The Raiders have up a 1 and 2 for D. Adams. Chiefs got a 1, 2, 4, 4, and 6. The last two being in the 2023 draft. The only way to get value out of him was to trade him. Hated to see him go but would have hated more to see him stay at $30 mil/season.
              Go Shocks!

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              • Originally posted by ShockerDropOut View Post
                The Jets never offered a first round pick for Hill, much less a top ten pick.
                You probably know this but the Jets and Dolphins offers were really close so the Chiefs didn’t care and left it to Hill. You’re right that the Chiefs were offered a first rounder (very late first rd. Pick) by the Fins, and no first rd. Pick by the Jets. But the Jets offer had two early 2nd Rd. Picks (35 and 38) with 32 teams, and the 69 (early 3rd rd) pick too.

                The Fins offered the 29(late 1st), 50 (mid 2nd), and (approx. 150th I think ) 4th Rd.

                Very similar imo.

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                • Anyone else curious why it was only the jets and dolphins? No Seahawks, packers, eagles (tons of draft picks), etc? Something smells off with this. I think there was more behind the scenes and that is why it happened so quickly.

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                  • Originally posted by MikeKennedyRulZ View Post
                    Anyone else curious why it was only the jets and dolphins? No Seahawks, packers, eagles (tons of draft picks), etc? Something smells off with this. I think there was more behind the scenes and that is why it happened so quickly.
                    My understanding is that a week or two ago, KC thought they were close to a deal (20 Million a year). Then Jacksonville paid Christian Kirk more than 21 Million, and Adams was paid 27 Million by Vegas. Hill then saw he was worth at least what Adams was paid, which was too rich for KC, who then authorized Hill to seek a trade. The Jets and Fins both were in the ball park for Hill, and the Chiefs came to an mutual agreement with both teams. It was then up to Hill. My understanding is that Miami sweetened the deal one more time to 30 Million, and Chiefs/Hill pulled the trigger

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                    • Originally posted by Shockm View Post

                      My understanding is that a week or two ago, KC thought they were close to a deal (20 Million a year). Then Jacksonville paid Christian Kirk more than 21 Million, and Adams was paid 27 Million by Vegas. Hill then saw he was worth at least what Adams was paid, which was too rich for KC, who then authorized Hill to seek a trade. The Jets and Fins both were in the ball park for Hill, and the Chiefs came to an mutual agreement with both teams. It was then up to Hill. My understanding is that Miami sweetened the deal one more time to 30 Million, and Chiefs/Hill pulled the trigger
                      This is my understanding as well. It has been reported that the Chiefs were actually more in favor of the Jets offer, slighly. Hill lives in Miami in the off season and chose to go there. Chiefs did him solid by accepting the Miami trade. His time in KC was essentially done when Adams signed with the Raiders.
                      Go Shocks!

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                      • Originally posted by SHOXAAC View Post
                        Good luck Tyrek fighting for a wildcard spot. I am sick of these athletes providing the lip service "I compete for championships." Bulls h i t. Tell it like it is..."I am competing for dollars." Tyrek leaves a culture he knows and entering one he doesn't. If you need $25M rather than $19M to put your head on your pillow at night, go for it. MONEY ISN'T EVERYTHING PEOPLE.
                        LOL, in what world are you, or any sane person turning down $7M? I don't know what percentage of your net worth is represented by $7M, but in 99.999999% of the population, it would be a significant percentage. Maybe $7M can't buy your happiness, but it sure can rent it! :)

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                        • Happiness and success trump money. Maybe I'm in the minority in my thinking. If I'm a professional athlete and getting paid top dollar, I'm going to want to be in a situation to win over getting an extra couple of million. We see some guys in sports who feel the same and others that don't mind losing as long as they've maximized their earnings. I've already heard MVS state that he turned down more money than KC offered because he'd rather win. He's not Hill, but nobody is. But you don't have to be Hill to have success and the Chiefs can have success without Hill.

                          The Chiefs will be better off without Hill than Hill will be without the Chiefs. Tua will limit his playmaking ability. But Hill also now lives somewhere where at least half of his games won't be taxed at the state level so he'll keep a little more of it. So he has that going for him.
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                          • Chiefs to sign former Buccaneers RB Ronald Jones

                            https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...143953611.html

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                            • Originally posted by SubGod22 View Post
                              Happiness and success trump money.
                              These are not mutually exclusive. Why can't you have both? And as far as sacrificing millions to "win." How much happiness can you achieve establishing generational wealth vs winning a few more games?

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                              • Originally posted by SubGod22 View Post
                                Happiness and success trump money. Maybe I'm in the minority in my thinking. If I'm a professional athlete and getting paid top dollar, I'm going to want to be in a situation to win over getting an extra couple of million. We see some guys in sports who feel the same and others that don't mind losing as long as they've maximized their earnings. I've already heard MVS state that he turned down more money than KC offered because he'd rather win. He's not Hill, but nobody is. But you don't have to be Hill to have success and the Chiefs can have success without Hill.

                                The Chiefs will be better off without Hill than Hill will be without the Chiefs. Tua will limit his playmaking ability. But Hill also now lives somewhere where at least half of his games won't be taxed at the state level so he'll keep a little more of it. So he has that going for him.
                                You can probably Sum up Hill as person of lesser maturity and lacking the ability to view life from a "deep" POV. ( I didn't want to say "shallow" but it might fit him).

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