2008 Signees

[shocks02]

So with the early signing period coming up soon, what do you guys think of this year's class compared to past years?

2008

Clevin Hannah
Toure Murray
Garrett Stutz ???
Brandon Davis ???

2007

Aaron Ellis
Graham Hatch
Ramon Clemente
Mantas Griskeanas
AJ Hawkins

2006

Gal Mekel
Arbry Butler
JT Durley
Chris Brown

[newshock1234]

well unless someone else is gone besidss the current seniors, then we are not going to sign both stuntz and davis

[SpanglerFan316]

Re: 2008 Signees

2008

Clevin Hannah - recruits always look good until we see them
Toure Murray - recruits always look good until we see them
Garrett Stutz ??? - Paul Miller clone?
Brandon Davis ??? - recruits always look good until we see them

2007

Aaron Ellis - should be good
Graham Hatch - hopefully a better Blake Ahearn ?
Ramon Clemente - jury is out but the hope is high
Mantas Griskeanas - should be good
AJ Hawkins - we'll see in a year

2006

Gal Mekel - solid player
Arbry Butler - hope springs eternal
JT Durley - needs to "rev his motor"?
Chris Brown - who?

[McShocker]

Re: 2008 Signees

2008

Clevin Hannah - recruits always look good until we see them
Toure Murray - recruits always look good until we see them
Garrett Stutz ??? - Paul Miller clone?
Brandon Davis ??? - recruits always look good until we see them

2007

Aaron Ellis - should be good
Graham Hatch - hopefully a better Blake Ahearn ?
Ramon Clemente - jury is out but the hope is high
Mantas Griskeanas - should be good
AJ Hawkins - we'll see in a year

2006

Gal Mekel - solid player
Arbry Butler - hope springs eternal
JT Durley - needs to "rev his motor"?
Chris Brown - who?

Don't you think this is a little bit too high of expectations? I wasn't a huge Ahearn fan, but the guy was an all-conference performer at least his last 2 years, maybe more. I don't think there are many who are expecting that out of GH. I would be happy if he ended up being almost as good as Ahearn, with a better coach and team around him.

[SpanglerFan316]

Re: 2008 Signees

Don't you think this is a little bit too high of expectations? I wasn't a huge Ahearn fan, but the guy was an all-conference performer at least his last 2 years, maybe more. I don't think there are many who are expecting that out of GH. I would be happy if he ended up being almost as good as Ahearn, with a better coach and team around him.

I did say "hopefully"!! :D

[SubGod22]

I look for Hatch to be more along the lines of Matt Clark. Good shooter. Gives you everything he's got. Smart and can lead.

[Maggie]

It is hard evaluate the 2006 and 2007 classes because the only player who has actually played in more than one game is Mekel. However, I'll give it a shot for fun.

I would have to put the 2007 class first at this point.

2007

Aaron Ellis – He will be a player and will break out late Sophomore year.
Graham Hatch – Solid role player in a couple of years with an outside chance to be something more.
Ramon Clemente – A solid inside force and a good presence in the locker room. His effort will never be questioned.
Mantas Griskeanas – He is going to have a good two years at WSU. You people saw that he is capable of hitting the glass – just wait until the shots start falling.
AJ Hawkins – This kid is a steal. He will push PJ in practice and take over at SG next year. I suspect he needs to work on his outside shot but he has plenty of time to do so.

2006 comes in second – only Mekel has shown he handle significant minutes. Butler and Durley have not played a game and Brown left.

2006

Gal Mekel – Tremendous potential as a floor leader and I think he is going to have a excellent year.
Arbry Butler – Again, potential is the only way to describe my feelings about Butler. I was really excited about this kids length and athletic ability when he signed. If he continues to work hard, I think he will be a solid role player next year and after that – who knows.
JT Durley – I think JTD will be fine and will contribute this year.
Chris Brown – Gone. Nothing to say.

And last the 2008 class – primarily because Hannah and Murray are both guards. CGM needs to sign a solid 4 or a 5 to complete the class. I suppose the jury is still out with regard to this class.

2008

Clevin Hannah – Looks like a good sign.
Toure Murray – Same with Murray but I hope CGM is done looking at guards.

Garrett Stutz ??? – The kid gets mixed reviews in a weak 2008 class – at least for big men. However, he apparently can shoot the ball and seems like he comes from a good family. I would be happy if he signed but it might take him a few years to completely get on track – like Miller. By the time he is a Junior and if the Nigerian shows up (and stays four years) – WSU could have a heck of a front line.

Brandon Davis ??? – Absolutely no clue.

[vbird53]

I look for Hatch to be more along the lines of Matt Clark. Good shooter. Gives you everything he's got. Smart and can lead.

Exactly. I'd lump Clark in the same group with Ahearn.

Sorry, I just can't understand how Ahearn was so effective. He never did much against the Shocks. Reminded me a lot of Clark. If we can get that from Hatch, I'd be happy.

[Smooth007]

I look for Hatch to be more along the lines of Matt Clark. Good shooter. Gives you everything he's got. Smart and can lead.

Exactly. I'd lump Clark in the same group with Ahearn.

Sorry, I just can't understand how Ahearn was so effective. He never did much against the Shocks. Reminded me a lot of Clark. If we can get that from Hatch, I'd be happy.

VBird you are giving Blake Ahearn too little credit. He averaged 13 points a game for a career on good teams. While Matt is one of the nicest guys you will ever meet, his statistics don't compare. However, they both were good 3 point shooters (averaging 40%). Matt was a role player on some below average teams. Ahearn was the go to guy on good (but not great) teams. I also think both were good leaders but maybe a step slow on defense. Even so, hopefully Hatch improves and becomes his own player to make this post moot.

[RHshoxfan]

It would be nice if Hatch basically never missed free throws to!

[Smooth007]

It would be nice if Hatch basically never missed free throws to!

I remembered the same thing but when I looked at the all time top 10 leaders in FT % he was no where to be found. I guess he never had 100 attempts to make him eligible???

[tropicalshox]

It's to early to make comparisons since we don't know the recruiting class yet. I doubt if both Stutz and Davis will be in it. 2007 is will probably not be shabby considering the circumstances.

[vbird53]

I look for Hatch to be more along the lines of Matt Clark. Good shooter. Gives you everything he's got. Smart and can lead.

Exactly. I'd lump Clark in the same group with Ahearn.

Sorry, I just can't understand how Ahearn was so effective. He never did much against the Shocks. Reminded me a lot of Clark. If we can get that from Hatch, I'd be happy.

VBird you are giving Blake Ahearn too little credit. He averaged 13 points a game for a career on good teams. While Matt is one of the nicest guys you will ever meet, his statistics don't compare. However, they both were good 3 point shooters (averaging 40%). Matt was a role player on some below average teams. Ahearn was the go to guy on good (but not great) teams. I also think both were good leaders but maybe a step slow on defense. Even so, hopefully Hatch improves and becomes his own player to make this post moot.

Oh, I know. I was never an Ahearn fan though.

[RHshoxfan]

It's to early to make comparisons since we don't know the recruiting class yet. I doubt if both Stutz and Davis will be in it. 2007 is will probably not be shabby considering the circumstances.

Well...We know Stutz is!

[Snapshot9]

I don't see the comparison between Hatch, Clark, and Ahearn at all. Hatch looks to be much more of a shooter than Clark, he averaged 14.6 ppg at Mesa.

And Murry does not have an 'A' in it.