Darrlyn Willis pf 6-8 2016 offered, A Shocker!

[shockmonster]

Morris, Willis and Nurger at the 5.
Kelly, Hamilton, Nurger, and Willis the 4.

Morris and Willis end up splitting time the 5.

Kelly, Hamilton, and Nurger battle it out for the 4 spot.
If they don't cut it; McDuffie to the 4.

If Hamilton's light goes on and he can handle the mental aspects of the game, he will see important minutes. But last year, his physical talent was enough to see important minutes and he only played mop up minutes.

In my opinion, Nurger doesn't play good enough defense to play the four. His best game last year was against Vandy when our two other 5's got into foul trouble. He did a nice job of guarding their super NBA talent 7 footer (who was mostly a post up player and didn't venture far from the rim).

If we want our best players on the court (our guards are still going to be our strength), we want Duff to be in the game. He will play both the 3 and 4 (just like last year).

[ShockTalk]

Morris, Willis and Nurger at the 5.
Kelly, Hamilton, Nurger, and Willis the 4.

Morris and Willis end up splitting time the 5.

Kelly, Hamilton, and Nurger battle it out for the 4 spot.
If they don't cut it; McDuffie to the 4.

It's not just about who beats out who at their "preferred" position, but who from another position makes themselves too valuable to not have on the floor more.

Example: Assume Smith, Landry, and Frankamp eat up 72 (24 minutes a piece) of the 80 minutes at the 1/2, only leaving 8 minutes max. Peyton Allen makes himself too valuable to not have on the floor for at least 15-20 minutes a game and is out playing, at his positions, Kelly, Nurger, and Hamilton at their positions. Allen picks up a few minutes at the 2, the rest at the 3 with Brown. Allen basically pushes McDuffie to the 4 who pushes Willis to some 5 for the strongest 8 man rotation.

This type of dynamics happens at every position when you have quality players that can play more than one position. A player is not only competing with players at his positions, but perhaps, stronger multiple players at positions he does not even play.

[Dan]

Coach always says the guys that can play multiple positions will see more playing time. If Allen can play the 3 with Brown, that gives McDuffie more time at the 4, which I think we will see this year. The competition for minutes is going to be really tough.

[ShockdaWorld]

Maybe it will be tough. Maybe it won't. With so many unproven/untested guys, there may be 3-4 that are head and shoulders above the rest and 3-4 that are just role players to plug into the rotation. I hope there is a good competition for minutes, but at this point in time, it's just so hard to tell.

[Dave Stalwart]

What we really need is for Darrlyn to be as good as he looks. If he forces his way into the starting lineup, that means he either bumped Shaq to second string at the 5 or he bumped McDuffie to the 3. Either way, that team is going to be good. I don't even care what position each player plays. We have several guys that can play multiple positions and honestly that's better for their preparation for pro careers anyway. Willis and Nurger need to burst onto the scene. Sorry if that means Rashard and Hamilton struggle to get minutes, though. I like those guys a lot. Such is life on a stacked team.

[Rocky Mountain Shock]

What we really need is for Darrlyn to be as good as he looks. If he forces his way into the starting lineup, that means he either bumped Shaq to second string at the 5 or he bumped McDuffie to the 3. Either way, that team is going to be good. I don't even care what position each player plays. We have several guys that can play multiple positions and honestly that's better for their preparation for pro careers anyway. Willis and Nurger need to burst onto the scene. Sorry if that means Rashard and Hamilton struggle to get minutes, though. I like those guys a lot. Such is life on a stacked team.

I'd be as giddy as a sixth grade girl if Willis is good enough that Duff doesn't have to play significant minutes at the 4.

[im4wsu]

Your assessment is spot on except for Rashard shooting 3's to this point. However, he may improve to be more consistent. In my opinion, Rashard, at this time lacks perimeter skills, medium range skills, and post skills on a consistent basis. He has shown the ability on occasion on all three, but he has to make a step up. His rebounding skills are probably his strong point but he isn't a dominating rebounder either. He's still a candidate to play the 4 spot but on my depth list, his level of play would be below Markis. At this point, Willis is an unknown so he would be below RK, but if RK doesn't improve, I hope that Willis steps up.

RK doesn't have enough 3-pt attempts to make any real assessment, but he was 44.4% in 2014-15 and only 31.6% last season, for a career of 35.7%. Contrast that with Frankamp at 31.3 as a beaker and 35% as a Shocker for an overall 33.8%. I am NOT saying that RK should be shooting threes and CF should not, but it is rather interesting how preconceived expectations seem to influence out memory/judgements.

What we tend to remember about RK shooting is the 43.3% (29-67) on layups. For the 3, 4 and 5 positions, here is their lay-up percentages (2015-16 season):

Player	Made	Missed	Attempts	Percent
Kelly	29	38	67	0.433
Hamilton	13	8	21	0.619
Morris	39	21	60	0.650
Bush W	8	7	15	0.533
Grady	40	20	60	0.667
Nurger	7	5	12	0.583
McDuffie	38	30	68	0.559
Wessel	10	7	17	0.588
Brown	24	19	43	0.558
Non-Kelly	179	117	296	0.605

If Kelly had shot the same .605 that the others did, his FG% would rise from .429 to .516. If he had shot .650, the FG% would increase to 54%.

[shockmonster]

RK doesn't have enough 3-pt attempts to make any real assessment, but he was 44.4% in 2014-15 and only 31.6% last season, for a career of 35.7%. Contrast that with Frankamp at 31.3 as a beaker and 35% as a Shocker for an overall 33.8%. I am NOT saying that RK should be shooting threes and CF should not, but it is rather interesting how preconceived expectations seem to influence out memory/judgements.

What we tend to remember about RK shooting is the 43.3% (29-67) on layups. For the 3, 4 and 5 positions, here is their lay-up percentages (2015-16 season):

Player	Made	Missed	Attempts	Percent
Kelly	29	38	67	0.433
Hamilton	13	8	21	0.619
Morris	39	21	60	0.650
Bush W	8	7	15	0.533
Grady	40	20	60	0.667
Nurger	7	5	12	0.583
McDuffie	38	30	68	0.559
Wessel	10	7	17	0.588
Brown	24	19	43	0.558
Non-Kelly	179	117	296	0.605

If Kelly had shot the same .605 that the others did, his FG% would rise from .429 to .516. If he had shot .650, the FG% would increase to 54%.

You obviously have a high opinion of RK. While he may have potential, from what he has exhibited so far, I don't share your opinion. I think that MM is a better player than RK. I don't see the usefulness to compare his play to Conner Frankamp.

[im4wsu]

You obviously have a high opinion of RK. While he may have potential, from what he has exhibited so far, I don't share your opinion. I think that MM is a better player than RK. I don't see the usefulness to compare his play to Conner Frankamp.

The only comment re CF is that his D1 shooting percentage is thought to be okay by many, but RK is criticized.

I never said RK was better than anyone, simply posted facts about shooting percentages and the extrapolation that if he could gain confidence, strength on lay ups, his percentages would look significantly better.

I still believe RK has great potential and high ceiling. He will only be a junior this season. MM is only going to be a soph and his ceiling is whatever he wants it to be. Hope they both achieve unlimited heights. As for CF, I hope that he can transfer his shooting skills into gamete me performances.

[wufan]

It's not just about who beats out who at their "preferred" position, but who from another position makes themselves too valuable to not have on the floor more.

Example: Assume Smith, Landry, and Frankamp eat up 72 (24 minutes a piece) of the 80 minutes at the 1/2, only leaving 8 minutes max. Peyton Allen makes himself too valuable to not have on the floor for at least 15-20 minutes a game and is out playing, at his positions, Kelly, Nurger, and Hamilton at their positions. Allen picks up a few minutes at the 2, the rest at the 3 with Brown. Allen basically pushes McDuffie to the 4 who pushes Willis to some 5 for the strongest 8 man rotation.

This type of dynamics happens at every position when you have quality players that can play more than one position. A player is not only competing with players at his positions, but perhaps, stronger multiple players at positions he does not even play.

This guy gets it!

[ShockRef]

This guy gets it!

And on that note... Hearing very good things about PA. Based off very reliable info, he is going to get plenty-o-minutes.

McDuff is the next 'big thing', but hearing that PA will be the next crowd fav.
Summer pick up games could be interesting to observe for the in-towners.

That is all.

[Cdizzle]

It's not just about who beats out who at their "preferred" position, but who from another position makes themselves too valuable to not have on the floor more.

Example: Assume Smith, Landry, and Frankamp eat up 72 (24 minutes a piece) of the 80 minutes at the 1/2, only leaving 8 minutes max. Peyton Allen makes himself too valuable to not have on the floor for at least 15-20 minutes a game and is out playing, at his positions, Kelly, Nurger, and Hamilton at their positions. Allen picks up a few minutes at the 2, the rest at the 3 with Brown. Allen basically pushes McDuffie to the 4 who pushes Willis to some 5 for the strongest 8 man rotation.

This type of dynamics happens at every position when you have quality players that can play more than one position. A player is not only competing with players at his positions, but perhaps, stronger multiple players at positions he does not even play.

It's also how you end up with a baller team.

[ShockingButTrue]

And on that note... Hearing very good things about PA. Based off very reliable info, he is going to get plenty-o-minutes.

McDuff is the next 'big thing', but hearing that PA will be the next crowd fav.
Summer pick up games could be interesting to observe for the in-towners.

That is all.

Crowd favorite as in E. Wessel? About the same size.

[ShockdaWorld]

And on that note... Hearing very good things about PA. Based off very reliable info, he is going to get plenty-o-minutes.

McDuff is the next 'big thing', but hearing that PA will be the next crowd fav.
Summer pick up games could be interesting to observe for the in-towners.

That is all.

I like the sounds of this comment!!

[ShockdaWorld]

My wife texted and said someone named "Darrel" that is somewhere around 6'8" is helping coach at Ron's camp today. Willis is the only guy I can think of, although she hasn't sent a pic yet.