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  • Who wants to start the "Any news on Wamukota?" topic on the Men's Basketball board?

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    • Originally posted by RoyalShock View Post
      Who wants to start the "Any news on Wamukota?" topic on the Men's Basketball board?
      We need Cold if we're ever going to keep that thread going.

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      • Don't forget that we have Shaq, who will more than likely play the kind of minutes that Carl played. Bush will more than likely play the kind of minutes EO played (unless he is more skilled than we expect). The combo of Hall/EO worked out well. Why not embrace the Shaq/Bush combo?
        “Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”
        -Sun Tzu, The Art of War

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        • Originally posted by Cdizzle View Post
          I believe we were analyzing your thoughts on EO. Now I'm getting confused. You mean to tell me that basketball is a team sport where individuals of varying skill sets can each make meaningful contributions to individual victories, season accomplishments and program building? Interesting concept. Perhaps the coaching staff feels this recruit has assets that can be a piece on another successful team.

          Your point that EO was not wholly responsible for WSU's recent success and Final Four run is valid. I never said otherwise. My point that listing EO's statistics and off-court qualities without including the team's success while he was here is just as valid.
          I will respectfully disagree, but in your immediate previous post, I do see your point in regard to "taking a chance" on EO because of the components you spoke of. I just don't think he was as successful on the court as advertised because primarily his lack of good hands, and his lack of basketball life experience. What a great young man, just not what was hyped of him.

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          • Originally posted by RoyalShock View Post
            Who wants to start the "Any news on Wamukota?" topic on the Men's Basketball board?
            Only if your committed to go the distance.

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            • Originally posted by RoyalShock View Post
              Who wants to start the "Any news on Wamukota?" topic on the Men's Basketball board?
              Or instead of starting a new thread, I think the EO thread is the natural place for BW talk to go... ;)
              "Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but by what you should accomplish with your ability."
              -John Wooden

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              • Originally posted by Cdizzle View Post
                We need Cold if we're ever going to keep that thread going.
                I share in his love of big athletic ballers (no homo), but I think even Cold's enthusiasm has been curbed by EO's career at WSU in regards to Bush.
                Last edited by kochHead; November 8, 2013, 02:08 PM.
                “Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”
                -Sun Tzu, The Art of War

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                • All of this Plan A, Plan B, Plan C stuff is awfully presumptuous...

                  Nobody knows what the coaching staff's plan A,B,C are/were.

                  I have yet to see a big man 6' 10" or over since Robert Elmore who wasn't a project in one respect or another. That includes the following players that I have seen or am aware of (can't talk much about the 90's).

                  Ozell Jones, Tom Kosich, Greg Dreiling, Zarko Dsurisic Paul Miller...

                  some of those players worked about better than others but all had limitations to one degree or another when they first got here.

                  Anyone who thinks WSU is going to be a slam dunk for a high impact out of the box big man recruit, even with a Final Four has unreasonable expectations. Even KU's big men of the past few years were projects including Joel Embiid.

                  If this kid does ONLY what EO did his senior year, he will be worth the scholarship. I expect he will be a bit more offensively... but I don't want to be presumptuous....

                  Let the coaches do their job... I for one do not believe there would be a better talent pool in April then there is in November...
                  Kansas is Flat. The Earth is Not!!

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                  • Originally posted by jocoshock View Post
                    All of this Plan A, Plan B, Plan C stuff is awfully presumptuous...

                    Nobody knows what the coaching staff's plan A,B,C are/were.

                    I have yet to see a big man 6' 10" or over since Robert Elmore who wasn't a project in one respect or another. That includes the following players that I have seen or am aware of (can't talk much about the 90's).

                    Ozell Jones, Tom Kosich, Greg Dreiling, Zarko Dsurisic Paul Miller...

                    some of those players worked about better than others but all had limitations to one degree or another when they first got here.

                    Anyone who thinks WSU is going to be a slam dunk for a high impact out of the box big man recruit, even with a Final Four has unreasonable expectations. Even KU's big men of the past few years were projects including Joel Embiid.

                    If this kid does ONLY what EO did his senior year, he will be worth the scholarship. I expect he will be a bit more offensively... but I don't want to be presumptuous....

                    Let the coaches do their job... I for one do not believe there would be a better talent pool in April then there is in November...
                    ...but the talent pool sometimes doesn't present itself clearly until spring (ie: Clevin, Joe, Ben, Carl...etc...). I will agree their is more risk at the 5.

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                    • I think it is very important to remember that the situation now is completely different from when EO was brought aboard, as some have already mentioned. The biggest difference is that we don't NEED a guy that can give us a ton of offense from the 5 spot to be effective. We have shooters and slashers all the way down the roster, and the next generation of shooters and slashers to back them up and eventually replace them as starters. And we have Shaq and Carter, each of whom looks to be at least adequate in the scoring department.

                      All we need from a backup center is a guy that can give us 15-20 minutes a game of shot-blocking presence. Our top targets hopefully would have given us that and more, but Bush can fill that role just as well. If he can give us more, than it will just be frosting on the top. Even if we don't need him every game, he'll be another tool in the toolbox. And personally I love having a footer in the toolbox, even if they are the definition of a prospect. And for what its worth, Bush could easily surpass Orukpe if he has softer hands, as that was by far the Orukpe's biggest failing.

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                      • As any basketball coach will say, you can't teach height. I am excited to see yet another 7 footer coming in.

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                        • Originally posted by rrshock View Post
                          As any basketball coach will say, you can't teach height. I am excited to see yet another 7 footer coming in.
                          Former Hall of Fame coach Ralph Miller did pretty well taking 6-10projects Gene Wiley (who hadn't played basketball before Ralph brought him to East High for his senior year) and Nate Bowman. Both turned out well for the Shockers.

                          Brwak out the video of Bill Russell and give Bush W. (not W. Bush) a DVR remote and let him learn
                          "I not sure that I've ever been around a more competitive player or young man than Fred VanVleet. I like to win more than 99.9% of the people in this world, but he may top me." -- Gregg Marshall 12/23/13 :peaceful:
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                          "We have to pass it, to find out what's in it".

                          A physician called into a radio show and said:
                          "That's the definition of a stool sample."

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                          • Originally posted by tropicalshox View Post
                            Having soft hands is a lot different than EO.
                            Exactly (if true)!

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                            • Welcome to the Big Wam (which is what it will sound like when he blocks a shot). I look forward to his contribution, and let's all hope those soft hands learn to shoot free throws.

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                              • JucoRecruiting seems to like the commitment

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