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  • #76
    Originally posted by shoxlax View Post

    I honestly do not know who has visited the last two weekends and there is very little information that appears to leak.
    The Kevin Saal effect. Everyone on here seems to think it’s a Paul Mills thing. It’s a control freak Kevin Saal thing

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    • #77
      Originally posted by LetsGoShockers2021 View Post

      The Kevin Saal effect. Everyone on here seems to think it’s a Paul Mills thing. It’s a control freak Kevin Saal thing
      As much as I want information as a fan, that’s not necessarily a bad thing.
      "In God we trust, all others must bring data." - W. Edwards Deming

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Kel Varnsen View Post

        As much as I want information as a fan, that’s not necessarily a bad thing.
        explain

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        • #79
          Originally posted by pinstripers View Post

          explain
          It’s probably better that the whole world doesn’t know every recruit that’s visiting or everything going on within the program.
          "In God we trust, all others must bring data." - W. Edwards Deming

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          • #80


            Elijah Hawkins is a point guard who can step on a dime while making a great assist and tell you if the dime is heads or tails. Here is a short link with some impressive assists.
            Shocker basketball will forever be my favorite team in all of sports.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by LetsGoShockers2021 View Post

              The Kevin Saal effect. Everyone on here seems to think it’s a Paul Mills thing. It’s a control freak Kevin Saal thing
              Please elaborate. I am not following and I am not sure I agree with your comment.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by LetsGoShockers2021 View Post

                The Kevin Saal effect. Everyone on here seems to think it’s a Paul Mills thing. It’s a control freak Kevin Saal thing
                So your disgruntled at KS. Maybe we need to get DB back ?

                I don't understand how that would make anyone a control freak. And frankly, what does it matter that they keep things quiet?

                You sound a little miffed because you aren't getting any reliable inside Info.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Atxshoxfan View Post

                  So your disgruntled at KS. Maybe we need to get DB back ?

                  I don't understand how that would make anyone a control freak. And frankly, what does it matter that they keep things quiet?

                  You sound a little miffed because you aren't getting any reliable inside Info.
                  I swear some of you are half brain dead…. I tell you guys facts and some of you continue to act like they are my opinions. It’s laughable, I’m literally just telling you like it is in that quote above. Whether you want to hear it about Saal or not , it is what it is.

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                  • #84
                    I like Saal and I like Mills (although I want Mills to prove he can recruit well which will be determined after all the schollys).

                    I don’t care if I get inside knowledge ; I care if the team is good or not. Im not sure why you’re trying to pick arguments left and right recently ATX.
                    Last edited by LetsGoShockers2021; April 30, 2023, 09:56 PM.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by jcdshocker View Post

                      Please elaborate. I am not following and I am not sure I agree with your comment.
                      A few people mentioned that Paul Mills is choosing to keep things close to the vest. I responded because I didn’t want people to think it’s Mills who is choosing to keep everything silent by his choice, it’s Kevin instructing things to proceed in this manner. Just stating the facts for everyone to understand. Not saying it’s good or bad , is what it is.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by LetsGoShockers2021 View Post

                        I swear some of you are half brain dead…. I tell you guys facts and some of you continue to act like they are my opinions. It’s laughable, I’m literally just telling you like it is in that quote above. Whether you want to hear it about Saal or not , it is what it is.
                        I believe you are the one saying he is a "control freak" and then you sound upset about not getting any info. I am not one of the guys badmouthing you about your post on "ready for good news". I take most everything on SN with a grain of salt. So cool your jets dude.

                        Frankly I don't care who is responsible for keeping things quiet either. Probably a smart move.

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                        • #87
                          Recruiting news is easy wins for the coach and admin. Easy wins = more likely to donate when people feel connected to the program.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Stickboy46 View Post
                            Recruiting news is easy wins for the coach and admin. Easy wins = more likely to donate when people feel connected to the program.
                            Exactly :

                            A lot of people would donate if things were transparent with NIL and if daily/weekly excitement was produced/shared. Successful people don’t like to hand out checks without feeling good about where that money is going and how it will help.

                            Every good recruit has dozens upon dozens upon dozens of schools after them… you can’t tell me that it being know he took a visit somewhere would actually negatively impact your chances to land him. If he loves the coach and the program and the situation, he will commit and nothing else will matter. Those dozens of other programs are recruiting the player either way.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by LetsGoShockers2021 View Post

                              A few people mentioned that Paul Mills is choosing to keep things close to the vest. I responded because I didn’t want people to think it’s Mills who is choosing to keep everything silent by his choice, it’s Kevin instructing things to proceed in this manner. Just stating the facts for everyone to understand. Not saying it’s good or bad , is what it is.
                              I have heard exactly the same thing from reputable sources.

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                              • #90
                                I'm pretty confident that the people who matter (those who are major contributors to NIL) know EXACTLY what is going on.

                                It certainly can't hurt recruiting if other schools don't know the priorities of WSU's recruiting. It certainly could hurt if other schools know WSU's recruiting priorities. There's recruiting to build a program and there's recruiting to prevent other schools from building their programs.

                                The term "control freak" is an incredibly negative evaluation. It often says more about the person throwing that term out than about the person the term is directed at.

                                Keeping recruiting targets out of social media and public information seems to be a sound strategy. I don't think it deserves the "control freak" label.

                                Mills is likely to have a tough recruiting year. He got a late start and didn't get a recruiting staff put together until after a lot of players in the portal were already scheduling visits. That's the way it's always going to be with a coaching change.

                                Beverly and Cortes are solid recruits. Not home runs, but they're solid recruits. Then some are going to say, "but they were bench players". What are you expecting? That P5 starters are going to come to WSU? That's delusional. Lower level starters and higher level bench players are what's available.

                                The least important factor in recruiting is that fans know what's going on. Money guys - you can bet your ass they know what's going on. You want to know what's going on - just be a money guy.
                                The future's so bright - I gotta wear shades.
                                We like to cut down nets and get sized for championship rings.

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